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ZeeDrippyVessel

Joined: 12 May 2003 Reviews: 95
Location: deep south
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:50 pm
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Jomitsui said
> The story is nice, always enjoy your work...hehe...especially smut.
I try.
> Anyway, I do agree with some of them that the 'thoughts' is abit distracting thou I'm not confused. Thou it did allow me to know more abt what Gamling is thinking and the debates within his mind is kind of interesting to read abt. Maybe writing it in another way will be better for those that are confused by it? I don't know...
Now see, here is where I draw the line. If one continues to go back and rewrite because someone suggested it, a fic would NEVER be done. I would still be on the 5th chapter of Empty Vessel! It is impossible to please everyone all the time. And in the end, it's the AUTHOR'S story! Truth is, this is an exercise on an old way of presenting view point with a new twist. I don't know about anyone else, but I know, I do NOT think in completed sentences. And if I have several things on my mind, they tend to jumble. So if the random thought process is seeming a little off-putting and messing with the flow, I'm doing it right! Also, believe it or not, this one - unlike anything else I have written - has been forged through the fire several times. It's been workshopped (literally) by a battery of tough and opinionated readers (including a few editors and professional writers!) not to mention, I have 2 betas that have no qualms in telling me, you're not making a whole lotta sense here. But then again, they know me well, so some of my idiosyncracies have rubbed off on them. 
> Keep writing, it is nice to read another story from you, Tel' Lindar is getting too angst for me.
It has for me as well. It wasn't supposed to be THIS dark, this long, and for a while, there has been serious unraveling. It too has been THOROUGHLY workshopped (by a different set of authors) and like I said, it is in for the overhaul. Hopefully, it will return by late January, with a direction and plot in your face.
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ZeeDrippyVessel

Joined: 12 May 2003 Reviews: 95
Location: deep south
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:58 pm
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ghettoelleth said
> Been reading this on another forum Zee, and I love the way you've done Eomer. I always enjoy your writing, even though for the most part, I'm an elf kinda girl. I didn't get the confusion but that could be because I started reading it in a different format. Keep it up girl. You make Gamling so sexy.
I like my spin on Eomer as well. Of course, I'm sure I'll hear about it when I finally post him HERE.... hehe.
Doing things without the italics and such does make it harder to follow, but ... I'm doing what I can to differentiate.
As for Gamling, I haven't make him sexy. Bruce did.
Thud! |
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Bay
Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Reviews: 15
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:45 pm
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Acckkkk, Zee, I didn't know about your son. Anything I could say would be fatuous because when it comes to your kid, well, words fail. But as for those feckless muses, how dare they!
Have a nice restful holiday and come back and write more for us. Lots more.
Please.
Thanks eversomuch....................Bay
(Nice restful holiday---riiiiight) |
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Bay
Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Reviews: 15
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:46 pm
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Acckkkk, Zee, I didn't know about your son. Anything I could say would be fatuous because when it comes to your kid, well, words fail. But as for those feckless muses, how dare they!
Have a nice restful holiday and come back and write more for us. Lots more.
Please.
Thanks eversomuch....................Bay
(Nice restful holiday---riiiiight) |
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Yavanie

Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Reviews: 122
Location: Texas
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:44 am
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| Once again, off to a great start. The imagination runs wild with the possibilities. I was not confused by the style. I thought it evident that this was all viewed through Gamling's eyes (made sense even when his senses were, well befuddled). Your writing is always very touching. Your characters are well developed, we get to know them almost as if they were real. I'm sorry to hear about your son and hope that your new postings here mean he is well on the mend. Bronny can just hang out at Hogwarts for years as far as I'm concerned as long as your son is getting better. My thoughts and prayers are with you and thanks for this wonderful new adventure!!! |
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Viv

Joined: 25 Apr 2003 Reviews: 673
Location: Texas
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:27 pm
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ZeeDrippyVessel said
> Now see, here is where I draw the line. If one continues to go back and rewrite because someone suggested it, a fic would NEVER be done. I would still be on the 5th chapter of Empty Vessel! It is impossible to please everyone all the time. And in the end, it's the AUTHOR'S story!
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In this case, the format of Chapter 1, while well-done, was confusing to me (which, as I take it, is a good thing? Odd, but I'll take your word for it and keep reading. )
I thought the narrative picked up in Chapter 2, and I got a much better sense of what was going on. I dig this story.
Edit: I had a bit in there about how disheartening it is for a reviewer to hear that her feedback is for shit. But that was just whiny. If I don't feel appreciated, I can just stop reviewing, right? Not that I ever will, but... anyway. Just ignore me. From Chapter 2 on, I'm hooked. Good stuff. |
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ArtanisOrangeBlossom
Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Reviews: 96
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:22 am
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*Snickers* i love how you portray Gamling Zee!
I love the comments about Eomer too!
~Christina(from JFA mind you) |
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ZeeDrippyVessel

Joined: 12 May 2003 Reviews: 95
Location: deep south
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:26 am
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Just so you know...
I had a LOVELY response written... long, thoughtful, the whole 9 yards.
And when I hit SEND - I crashed.
I have a cold and I'm crabby, so watch this spot for the edit and the re-response.
(Thanks everyone!) |
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Frigg
Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Reviews: 63
Location: Taastrup, Denmark
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:49 am
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This is absolutely marvellous .... looking forward to seeing the continuation. I love the way, you've portraited the characters - especially Gamling, but also Éomer (who happens to be a personal favourite of mine). The dialogue between Théoden and Éomer in the third chapter is absolute genious!  |
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ZeeDrippyVessel

Joined: 12 May 2003 Reviews: 95
Location: deep south
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:28 am
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First the easy...
Bay - He is doing very well. He's got great color and a lot of energy.
Yavanie, Artanis and Frigg - Thank you. I have developed a sweet spot for Eomer with this and want to portray him as more than a rather serious warrior. I think he has a sense of humor and isn't afraid to use it!
And now, for the rough...
Viv -
Thank you for your positive words on my writing. Personally, I don't think I'm all that - I'm just... verbal...
I know there are writers who write directly into their email and post. I know there are writers who have never heard of a thesaurus, much less spell check. I know there a writers who do not check the facts, their canon, their movie verse. I know there are writers who will write their Elves with names like 'Tammy Faye' and 'Krystal' and NOT understand why many readers WON"T take them seriously. I know there are writers who will post without a beta's help or who have beta's with less punctuation skills than myself. There are writers who post at the end of a chapter - where do I go now? What do YOU want to see?
I am NOT any of these writers.
My statement about going back and rewriting a chapter - I meant I would not rewrite. This is why I don't post at ffnet. I'm not going to write 2 versions! I have 2 betas who have no qualms in telling me I'm out in left field, not to mention a small but equally opinionated group of readers who ping me and workshop chapters. Any multi-chapter story I write, has been etched and sketched. EV's notes and story arc took up no less than 3 notebooks: story line, plot, sub-plots, characterizations, chapter outlines, Tolkien's timeline. TL is shapping up to be bigger. At this time, 6 chapters of Rider are complete and 7 is WELL on it's way. I want it to be as tight as possible.
Formatting is a different story! Am I going to go back and reformat chapter one? More than likely after the holidays. (Zee. Retail. Christmas. Any questions?) I'm really stumped in some ways and I'm having my beta and several others go through the first chapter at this site as the problems people are complaining about here, isn't an issue anywhere else.
As for other writers reading my post and saying - oh, Zee doesn't do this or this... so I don't have to; every writer has to answer to their own conscious and their readers. I would never think to myself - oh so and so doesn't do this or this or this, so I don't have to! That's bull! I'm not them! They aren't me! What works for them sure wouldn't work for me! I would LOVE to write a fic that everyone LOVED. It isn't going to happen. There are people out there that see my name and just one star or low rate away because of who I am. See, there is a group of people - and excuse my French - that I have pissed the shit out of because I have DARED to write the Elves as having enjoyable sex lives! The HORROR! I'm such a beast!
Do I think I'm a fabulous writer? Heck no! Do I think I'm a HORRID writer? Just as strongly - heck no. Am I different? Yes. Can I please everyone? NO! I more than realize that I have a very unusual style. I am more than aware that there are some people who will stop because of that style. Bottom line - I am responsible for what I write, just as other writers are responsible for what THEY write.
I'm not trying to put off my readers or reviewers. Opinions do mean a lot to me - especially if one thinks I'm dropping the ball somewhere. You can't imagine my HORROR when I sat down right after I found out that my son was being scheduled for surgery and after reading through the first 20 chapters of TL, and realized how many THREADS I had dropped! So here I am, tying and tying and tying. And NO ONE is seeing it, until I'm happy with the weave! I admit to being quite prickly when it comes to my writing - I pour so much into it, but I do listen to critique (not flames - big difference!) and opinions.
Writing is a cross-stitch piece, lovies. Every thread must lay JUST so! |
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