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MITAQ
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 Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject: Different Takes On Some Repetitive FanFiction |
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We've all heard the girl/boy falls into Middle-Earth and the Tolkien character in 21st century stuff. Here's an idea:
Write a REALISTIC fanfic like this, except with certain plots 
Plots:
1. Girl/Boy falls into M-E during First/Second Age
2. Our world is the future of M-E (I've seen a lot of these but they lack real creativeness)
3. Ditto above, but the Valar have been dethroned, tuhs Morgoth is unchained, and they and the elves live in our modern world, trying to stop Big-Bad-Morgoth
4. Girl/Boy falls into M-E in Rohan (And they hate horses. Aren't I cruel?)
5. Girl/Boy falls into M-E, is a Tolkien junkie (In other words can speak elvish "Tarzan-like") but they eventually get shunned because of future knowledge/know things about the people that most don't
Be creative! And please give me some feedback on these ideas. |
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SpaceWeavil
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Just a couple of points on this;
There's a challenge for stories like this in the challenge section, if anyone is interested in having a look (to write realistic girl-falls-into-ME stories).
One thing though, it might be an idea to check the guidelines on the site - I believe there were some amendments to the rules on what sort of storyline is acceptible for this sort of story.
In particular on point 5 of the list above - characters being Tolkien scholars;
| Quote: | | Modern Age OCs - If the OC should originate from a universe other than Middle Earth, she will enter Middle Earth with no prior knowledge of it. In other words, no character is going to enter Middle Earth with knowledge of THE TRILOGY. Open Scrolls strives for quality and this reeks of nothing but LAZY PLOTTING. The OC should not be able to speak the language instantly unless there is a very good reason for it. Westron is NOT English. If the OC HAS to join the Fellowship, please provide a reasonable explanation for it. Elrond has been a leader for a very long time, it's going to be a compelling reason that convinces him why an unattached female, with no wilderness skills, who doesn't speak the language, should accompany nine males into the most dangerous place in Middle Earth. |
That's quoted from the site guidelines.
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MITAQ
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Oops!
And who said knowledge of the triliogy? I just mean knowledge in genrel. I can't spell today. Please forgive me!
And Thanks for the feedback! |
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Viv
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Different Takes On Some Repetitive FanFiction |
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| MITAQOSWOFTROHVVLT wrote: | | 2. Our world is the future of M-E (I've seen a lot of these but they lack real creativeness) |
I've read a lot, and many are pretty darn good.  If you're interested, you might check out Scribe's story arc beginning with "The Patient." Also, JMac's "Forgotten Allies" takes this idea and sets it during WWII, to nice effect.
If it's creativity you're looking for, you might find Spaceweavil's "Tale of the Sixth Age" an amusing (very humourous) interpretation on what M-e would look like all these ages later.
I've written a modern-day AU and once in a blue moon I think it's okay, but I wouldn't recommend it. Still, I'm not sure it lacks creativity (just maybe style
If you have any questions about any of the challenges, please feel free to PM me. And welcome aboard the OSA! (As an aside ... What does your screen name mean?) |
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Alassante
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Different Takes On Some Repetitive FanFiction |
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| Viv wrote: |
I've written a modern-day AU and once in a blue moon I think it's okay, but I wouldn't recommend it. Still, I'm not sure it lacks creativity (just maybe style
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She is being modest - Dawn Twilight rocks!
Any story with the line “Good girl? If I beg, do I get a biscuit?” and the main OC says she cannot lie to chocolate is going to be a classic
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JaneDoe
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Here is my litter of bunnies to introduce:
1. Go the Inuyasha route and have the portal between Earth and Middle-earth be a simple thing like a well. Maybe one character may go through for some unknown reason (though beads of subjugation helps).
2. Let Middle-earth be something created by Tolkien, but don't have the characters be happy about finding out their entire lives (especially their pain and suffering) were figments of some professor's imagination.
3. Let the OC be a Tolkien scholar, but have Tolkien be mistaken on a few things, or even a lot of things, about Middle-earth and its inhabitants. Say that he got the languages pretty much right, and some of the history, but the most colorful and interesting stuff (like the characters) were decidedly glossed over in his written works. |
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| MITAQOSWOFTROHVVLT wrote: | Oops!
And who said knowledge of the triliogy? I just mean knowledge in [general  ]. I can't spell today. Please forgive me!
And Thanks for the feedback! |
All this just shows you belong here ... Welcome, Mae.
Oh, and - This from her profile ... | Quote: | | read the Silmarillion five times in the last three months |
You are INSANE!  You definately belong here.
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| JaneDoe wrote: | | 3. Let the OC be a Tolkien scholar, but have Tolkien be mistaken on a few things ... |
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 7:57 am Post subject: |
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By the way - I don't think I've ever seen a "boy falls into Middle Earth" story anywhere. There always seem to be only girls falling into ME... 
I think a story about a boy falling into ME could be just as interesting actually... I mean, how many modern guys can actually fight with swords? (And I'm not talking about those who practise fencing as a sport).
Oh, and another question: The guidelines here say that you won't be able to communicate in ME in English or any other "modern" language. How is one supposed to communicate then? Sign language? Universal translator? 
I like the Inuyasha portal idea, the one with the well. Or perhaps a wardrobe, Narnia-style? |
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| Eyborg wrote: | | Oh, and another question: The guidelines here say that you won't be able to communicate in ME in English or any other "modern" language. How is one supposed to communicate then? Sign language? Universal translator? |
Babel fish?
The idea is that if ME is real enough to be 'dropped' into, then it would be real enough to have its real languages and if you didn't know them, you'd have to learn them a la Penny in "Don't Panic."
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | | Eyborg wrote: | | Oh, and another question: The guidelines here say that you won't be able to communicate in ME in English or any other "modern" language. How is one supposed to communicate then? Sign language? Universal translator? |
Babel fish?
The idea is that if ME is real enough to be 'dropped' into, then it would be real enough to have its real languages and if you didn't know them, you'd have to learn them a la Penny in "Don't Panic." |
I cheated and used a magic stone of some sort I think. I do remember thinking about it for far too long to be healthy, and finally deciding I didn't have time to 'learn' the languages normal style if I wanted to get on with the plot. That was way back, when that story had a plot...
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Eyborg
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Babel fish! Ha ha ha... Good one! 
Would it be acceptable if the person falling into ME would suddenly be able to speak Westron like, magically? Just wondering... 
(I wonder if they did speak English in Narnia?) |
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Shanalir
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| Eyborg wrote: | Babel fish! Ha ha ha... Good one!
Would it be acceptable if the person falling into ME would suddenly be able to speak Westron like, magically? Just wondering...
(I wonder if they did speak English in Narnia?) |
Just a thought or two I'll toss out:
I suppose if the Valar or a Maia intervened magically, it might work. (Such as casting a spell of tongues on them or something)
And yes, they probably did speak English in Narnia. Remember, Peter, Susan, Edmund, Lucy, Eustace, Jill, and the two that were in "The Magician's Nephew" (I think, that's the title, it's been two years since I've had access to that book, and a couple more since I've read any of the Narnia books)... Lost my train of thought 
Anyway, none of them had any communication problems, and nothing is said about translations or anything. And there's a part in the Magician's Nephew where the White Witch ends up in England, and no one has any problems understanding her.
Sorry for going so 
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wenont
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:07 am Post subject: My two cents.... |
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Hi guys and gals,
I have been working on a storyline regarding your idea. Been working on it for the past six months regarding a fall in OFC(s), from way the hell into even our future, and it is intended to be understood that their time and place is the far future of ME.
This fact is not readily apparent to the OFC(s) until well into the storyline and, it is not a *gasp* true MS but, since the new rules in March went into effect, regarding modern day drop ins, I have had to go back and rewrite tons.
This is my first and, probably last, modern day drop in but I had to get the bunny out of my head.
This is the main reason I have not posted anything new to date. But, just wanted you all to know that there is a pitiful OSA fanfic writer heading in this direction. Hopfully, the first installments will go up in late spring/early summer. That's the plan anyway. 
So, prepare the tar and feathers, those of you who detest such stories,  and yes, it shall be a Legomance,  entwined with two other elves (involved with the other two OFCs) as well, who shall remain nameless
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MITAQ
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. Never expected this many comments.
And yes, in Narnia they spoke English. In the Last Battle, Prince Whtashisface and his unicorn Jewel (I think the unicorn too.) Meet the kids who go to Narnia, and understand them. Unless Aslan intervined.
I read on ff.net a good story called "The Games fo the Gods" where a girl can speak elvish by a thing she calls "The Mary-Sue Factor" The whole plot is that she doesn't want to be a Mary-Sue.
I might actually try one of theses things. I luff my "Girl gets thrown into Rohan (And she hates horses)" one.
Thanks all for responding!
OH! The name stands for Manwathiel Isiliel, The Almighty Queen Of Spazdom Who Often Forgets The Rest Of Her Very Very Lengthy Title.
Ciao!
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