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Vilwarin

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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject: Two questions |
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Does anybody know the word (if there is a special one) for the hood that people wore in medieval times? Here is a picture:
I was also wondering since medieval people had no nightclothes, would that be the case for Middle-earth as well? _________________ ***Pervy Halbarad fancier*** |
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Rhapsody

Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 1153 Location: Maglor's Lap
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Two questions |
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[quote="Vilwarin"]Does anybody know the word (if there is a special one) for the hood that people wore in medieval times? Here is a picture:
Cowl or a hood?
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I was also wondering since medieval people had no nightclothes, would that be the case for Middle-earth as well? |
On what do you base that? As far as I know and I learnt on school, people in medieval age wore night clothes.
Here have fun with this:
Ups And Downs Of Underwear In The Middle Ages
Ups And Downs Of Underwear In The Middle Ages II
Lingerie And The History Of Underwear _________________ I have not lost my mind - it's backed up on disk somewhere...
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NeumeIndil

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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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From what I've read recently (I think it was in Daily Life in Medieval Times by Frances and Joseph Gies), people would often climb into bed in their "small clothes" (undies) and then take them off and stick them under the pillow. Custom regarding modesty said they shouldn't be seen naked, but since they wore shifts, tunics etc. for multiple days, they didn't sleep in them. They grew too dirty too quickly if they did. This might have changed depending on location too since I can't really see sense in sleeping naked in the far north in the middle of winter, but also can't see sense in sleeping clothed in southern Italy and France, particularly in summer. You could probably do whatever fits the story best and not be too far off historically.
As for the head covering, my vote is for hood or cowl too but I don't have my costuming history book handy to look it up. Sorry. _________________ An Infinite Source of Pervy Wisdom. |
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Sulriel

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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| NeumeIndil wrote: | //snipped// They grew too dirty too quickly if they did. This might have changed depending on location too since I can't really see sense in sleeping naked in the far north in the middle of winter, but also can't see sense in sleeping clothed in southern Italy and France, particularly in summer. You could probably do whatever fits the story best and not be too far off historically.
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I'm not sure about the historical accuracy, but I think in most cases, you're safe going with something 'sensible' in the context of the story. I think it's hard for most of us to imagine life without washing machines and dryers ...having to carry all the clothes to the creek to hand wash, or draw water from the well - and make the choice between washing clothes or hunting for food.
You didn't say if they were home or traveling, but I imagine that would make a difference. I don't think I'd be comfortable 'getting nakkid' each night and each morning in enemy woods. When I camp with my horses, I sleep in something I can bolt out the door in, if need be, usually leggings and a loose top. - because of the practicality.
of course, nakkid sleep-mussed heros with swinging /ah/ ... swords *EG* would make for some interesting conflict
- don't know how useful any of that will be, but hopefullly gives you a little food for thought.
Becky _________________ "May it be a light to you in dark places." |
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NeumeIndil

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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| Sulriel wrote: | of course, nakkid sleep-mussed heros with swinging /ah/ ... swords *EG* would make for some interesting conflict |
Now I've got a mental image of Orcs running away in terror as Haldir drops out of a talan stark naked...  _________________ An Infinite Source of Pervy Wisdom. |
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Rhapsody

Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 1153 Location: Maglor's Lap
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| NeumeIndil wrote: | | Sulriel wrote: | of course, nakkid sleep-mussed heros with swinging /ah/ ... swords *EG* would make for some interesting conflict |
Now I've got a mental image of Orcs running away in terror as Haldir drops out of a talan stark naked...  |
LOL!
But yes, the situation your characters are in is important, besides climate, religion... I don't think you would be sleeping naked if you had to share your bed with your siblings (which was quite common) for example.
Haldir dropping out of a Talan, scaring off Orcs  _________________ I have not lost my mind - it's backed up on disk somewhere...
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NeumeIndil

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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:15 am Post subject: |
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First line: "He arose to the sound of the Black Speech drifting through the Golden Wood."
(Sweet Valar I need mental help! ) _________________ An Infinite Source of Pervy Wisdom. |
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eiranae Quiz Admin

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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Ooooo! Oooooo! I wanna read that one!  |
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AngmarsElfhild

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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| The pointed end of the hood is called a tippet or a liripipe, but I do not know if there is a special word for the hood itself. |
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NeumeIndil

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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| AngmarsElfhild wrote: | | The pointed end of the hood is called a tippet...(snipped). |
"When a hoodie comes along, you must tippet..."
(Walks away muttering how much she needs mental help.)  _________________ An Infinite Source of Pervy Wisdom. |
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Isadora22 Account Deleted

Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 144 Location: Angband,
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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If I want to start a story, is it a place where I can start to write it? Thanks in advance. _________________ 22nd Lord of Mordor. If I'm not on the site, you will find me into my realm. Feel free to glance into it! It's at this link:
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NancyBrooke Challenge Admin
Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 160 Location: In a motel 6 by the airport
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: |
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What kind of a place? Do you mean, can you post drafts, or chapters when the whole work is in-progress?
Folks frequently post the first part(s) of works-in-progress here, but the Admin's require that each posted part be as finished as possible, that is grammar/spell checked, formatted etc.
Did that answer your question? _________________ NB Duchess of WHY TF Cant'chu Punctuate, First Duchess of F*&(ing &*ll yur comma placement sux!
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Isadora22 Account Deleted

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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Yes, that answers. Thanks a lot. If someone had to do some spellcheck with grammer, he or she will see that ortograph is my strength when I write. For the moment, I didn't started my new story but I will surely do it today or in the following days for those who are interested. _________________ 22nd Lord of Mordor. If I'm not on the site, you will find me into my realm. Feel free to glance into it! It's at this link:
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Rhapsody

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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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A beta is a proofreader or editor, Neume explains it here a bit.
Depending on what you and your beta agree on, the grammar/spelling beta makes corrections in your word file and sends it back to you. A canon beta verifies if your story fits in canon or explores canon possiblities for you. I am for example more a canon beta than a grammar/spelling beta and combine my betareads with storyline, plotline and character development help. I currently have my plate full, so I am not taking any extra until I catch up. Although occasionally it does happen that end up with an extra story, so that might take a while. Maybe you should have a look at the beta pool thread, there beta's are offering their services. _________________ I have not lost my mind - it's backed up on disk somewhere...
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Isadora22 Account Deleted

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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, ok. I will go to take a look at beta's thread now that I now more what's a beta because I had never saw this before. I know where is the thread for beta's pool because I did a little exploration yestherday on the forum by try and mistakes as I did when I'm not sure. Thanks for the explanations. _________________ 22nd Lord of Mordor. If I'm not on the site, you will find me into my realm. Feel free to glance into it! It's at this link:
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