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Ottis413
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 Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:02 pm Post subject: His Dark Materials |
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http://www.goldencompassmovie.com/
Looks like it's gonna' be good!!
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Never heard of this but the site his mighty cool. 
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I'm still a bit disappointed with the casting for Asriel, I have to say. I've nothing against Daniel Craig, but originally they were saying Jason Isaacs was being considered, and that would just have been so awesome.
One thing though - does anyone know why the title in the US is different from the UK one? In the UK, the first book is 'Northern Lights', not 'The Golden Compass'. I know why they did it with Harry Potter, changing it from Philosopher to Sorceror, but this confused me a lot.
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Ottis413
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| SpaceWeavil wrote: | | - does anyone know why the title in the US is different from the UK one? In the UK, the first book is 'Northern Lights', not 'The Golden Compass'. I know why they did it with Harry Potter, changing it from Philosopher to Sorceror, but this confused me a lot. |
I noticed that when I got the e-books, (my wife latched on to the paperbacks when they came in the mail)
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Apparently, Pullman's original name for the series was The Golden Compass Says..., and that was the name under which he sent it off to American publishers. He heard nothing from them for months, and in the interim, decided (with his British publisher's full blessing) to rename the series His Dark Materials. Months later, RandomHouse sent a letter to inform him that they would be thrilled to publish The Golden Compass and, when Pullman explained that the name had changed, insisted that the cover artwork was already slated to publicly appear the following month, and it was too late to change the title.
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His Dark Materials refers to the tools that the Creator used to build the world and mankind. Specifically, it's a reference to a line in Paradise Lost by John Milton, the epic poem that provides a great deal of inspiration for His Dark Materials.
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I was a little disappointed to find that they had wrote the script so the movies don't mention the church, but I can understand the reasons for that...
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| Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:15 am Post subject: |
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I suppose it'll be interesting to see how they convey the story if they're not going to mention religion, since to me it was such a big part of it all.
But thanks for the info, because that was something I'd wondered about for a while. I didn't actually know the name was different till I had a conversation with, I think it was Ghetto, and she mentioned the Golden Compass, which I didn't recognise and didn't get that she meant the same book as I'd read, lol.
I'm always a bit wary though when they make a film or series of a book I really like, as I usually tend to be disappointed as it's not like I imagined it (LOTR was one of the few exceptions to this actually for me). I'm already a bit disappointed with the adaptations the BBC is doing of Pullman's victorian stories. The Ruby in the Smoke's coming out this Christmas sometime or early next year and has Billie Piper of Dr Who fame in the lead, and though I liked her at first in Dr Who, to me she's just not how I imagined the character and so I'm not really looking forward to that now.
I am willing to be proved wrong though, and actually hope I will be and I'll enjoy both that and the Dark Materials films.
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Ottis, I just want to thank you for posting this link, and you too, Space, for mentioning Jason Isaacs and Daniel Craig in the same thought and catching my interest.  Both of you led me to what has so far been one of the best series of books I have ever read. (Most of the way through the first one now, and trying to make it last.)
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| vladazhael wrote: | | Ottis, I just want to thank you for posting this link, and you too, Space, for mentioning Jason Isaacs and Daniel Craig in the same thought and catching my interest. Both of you led me to what has so far been one of the best series of books I have ever read. (Most of the way through the first one now, and trying to make it last.) |
I love them, and my only regret is I didn't get around to reading them until so late. The series was a huge prompt to get me to stop thinking about my original fantasy and actually write it, so at the very least I owe it that.
Still peeved about Jason Isaacs though. Still, he will always be Asriel in my mind... 
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I just finished this trilogy for the first time a few weeks ago. I have to say I was breathtaken and moved beyond belief; certainly the best works I have read in a long while.
I will be very disappointed indeed if the movies are re-worked so the church doesn't feature. That would be about as useful as removing all the religious references from The Da Vinci Code. To me it was all about, if not religion, belief.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Sommer wrote: | I will be very disappointed indeed if the movies are re-worked so the church doesn't feature. That would be about as useful as removing all the religious references from The Da Vinci Code. To me it was all about, if not religion, belief.
*angry sigh* |
I know what you mean, I was kind of disappointed with The Da Vinci Code movie because of the changes they made from the book, oh well...
It seems like it's always like that with a movie that I watch after I've read the book(s).
(Glorfindel, and others, getting left out of PJs LotR, the "compression" of CS Lewis' books into one movie, and the numerous changes in Stephen King movies from the books, as just a few examples...)
I loved these movies, but, maybe I'm just too picky...  
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http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0385752/GC_03737.jpg.html?path=gallery&path_key=0385752&seq=7
New Pics here, anything with Sam Elliott in it can't be too bad.
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Amen to that!
I wonder, does anyone know how they're going to handle the daemons? I would assume CG will be involved for simple logistical reasons (and because I haven't seen any of them in the pics, meaning they'll probably be added in later), but I'd like to know a few more details if any are available yet.
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| vladazhael wrote: | | I wonder, does anyone know how they're going to handle the daemons? I would assume CG will be involved for simple logistical reasons (and because I haven't seen any of them in the pics, meaning they'll probably be added in later), but I'd like to know a few more details if any are available yet. |
I also assumed they would be CG, and, like Sommer, I was wondering, since religion seams to be off limits for the movies how will they handle the battle with "The Kingdom of Heaven" in part 3, The Amber Spyglass (set to come out in 2011) ????
| MTV News wrote: | | One sticky point, small in "The Golden Compass" but more crucial later on, is that the revisionist Church of Lyra's world is what sanctioned these experiments. In the film version, the Church is more simply referred to as the Magisterium, since, as one of the film's producers puts it, "Religion is out." With Pullman's blessing, the focus instead is on fascism, control and choice. But it begs the question, what's going to happen in the film version of "The Amber Spyglass" when the time comes for the battle with God and the angels? If the first two films are a success, will New Line become more comfortable reinserting the Gnostic thought of the books, or will they keep God out of it entirely? That's a question no alethiometer — at least not in this world — can answer. |
Inquirering mind want to know!
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| Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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how can they not mention religion? it was a GIGANTIMONDO part of the whole story basis. In fact, the entire trilogy is based around the one thing.
I'm confused.
But I like the books. The movie may not be too terrible, after all, look how well Peter Jackson did!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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I have never heard of this trilogy.
I'm pretty passive when it comes to, well life... the information really has to come to me. And it has. Well done.
The movie's site and the posts here have definately intrigued me and I've just ordered the trilogy from amazon.
This is one book turned movie that I'm actually going to get to read before the movie comes out... Every major movie that was once a book always seems to lap me in the release. But not this time. This time, I will win. I have, what... ten months? Yeah... I'm totally coming out on top this time.
This all means thanks for the post. Amazon thanks you too. |
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Emily loves these books and is reading the series again. She liked them much better than the CS Lewis books, they were funner for her than LoTR, and almost as loved as the Hobbit. She's so disappointed by the casting though, I hope that doesn't keep her from enjoying the movies because she just devoured the books on her first read. Mostly she's disappointed in Nicole Kidman being cast as Mrs. Coulter, says the Samantha Stevens look wasn't what she envisioned, lol.
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