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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2004 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

*Shields eyes*


That picture is fantastic!
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2004 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh, and that beautiful boy they got to play Aenis (sp?) at the end! "Here, beautiful blue-eyed boy! Take the sword!" Drool Bucket

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And here I thought I was the only one who noticed lovely Aeneas ... any info on the cutie?

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally go to see Troy over the weekend!

I liked it, but I didn't love it. With the exception of Sean Bean, who was wily and likeable and just freaking brilliant, and Eric Bana, who had me doing SERIOUS swooning from the second he first appeared. Oh man. What a wonderful character...kind of like Boromir and Faramir rolled into one. (Not saying he's better than them, just that he has the same type of appeal.) *sob* Why'd he have to die?

Loved the little gold things that the Trojans wore in their hair.

Peter O'Toole made a wonderful Priam.

I enjoyed the nod at Aeneas.

Didn't think Helen was particularly pretty. But I suppose that's the trouble--no one's ever going to be pretty enough for her. (We'd have the same problem if someone ever decided to make a movie of Beren and LĂșthien.)

Can anyone confirm for me--I thought Menelaus survived in the original version?

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think in all the variations of the original story, Menelaus survived and took Helen back to Sparta.

Agamemnon survived only to be killed by his wife and her lover when he got back hom.

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I'm dancing around at all the new Eric Bana fans. cough*Sindohte*cough. I have been very glad to see him getting the nods he deserves after this movie. Pretty good for a guy who never took any acting lessons, huh?

And in all fairness I have to say that Orlando Bloom wasn't as atrocious as I thought he would be after reading all the bad reviews about him. Granted, he definitely didn't pull off an impressive performance, but he wasn't Mystery Science Theater-bad like I thought he would be. Hopefully he'll learn to get a little more experience under his belt before taking on another role like that.

Between my husband, brothers and sons, I've been forced to see the movie three times in the last week, and what caught my attention - other than the obvious of Eric Bana's powerhouse performance and Brad Pitt's Playgirl-centerfold worthy body - was Vincent Regan as Eudorus, Achilles's buddy and second in command of the Myrmidons. I loved that guy and thought he was great. He really stood out for having such a small role. I know I've seen him in another movie but can't figure out where. Anybody else recognize him?

Overall, though the movie butchered the story of the Iliad with a Ginsu knife, I enjoyed it. Could have been better, but could have been worse. But I'm definitely buying it when it comes out on DVD. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andreth wrote:
Between my husband, brothers and sons, I've been forced to see the movie three times in the last week, and what caught my attention - other than the obvious of Eric Bana's powerhouse performance and Brad Pitt's Playgirl-centerfold worthy body - was Vincent Regan as Eudorus, Achilles's buddy and second in command of the Myrmidons. I loved that guy and thought he was great. He really stood out for having such a small role. I know I've seen him in another movie but can't figure out where. Anybody else recognize him?



So that's who played Eudorus! It turns out that he was on a sci-fi show called Invasion Earth around 4 years or so ago. For the life of me I can't remember much about the show because it came on around 2 am, but I do remember that he was damn hot looking.

As for Eric Bana, he did such a good job portraying Hector. And he filled out a skirt quite nicely as well. Wink

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andreth wrote:
Brad Pitt's Playgirl-centerfold worthy body


Hell yeah




BB's comments on the entire movie Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andreth wrote:
And in all fairness I have to say that Orlando Bloom wasn't as atrocious as I thought he would be after reading all the bad reviews about him. Granted, he definitely didn't pull off an impressive performance, but he wasn't Mystery Science Theater-bad like I thought he would be. Hopefully he'll learn to get a little more experience under his belt before taking on another role like that.

I thought he was competent, and the role itself was not all that great; it didn't have scope for him to do much. The scene I remember best is probably the duel with Menelaus. Not exactly Paris' finest moment, but probably OB's best acting. However, I confess that any time he was onscreen with EB, I just couldn't take my eyes off Hector.

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Vincent Regan as Eudorus, Achilles's buddy and second in command of the Myrmidons. I loved that guy and thought he was great. He really stood out for having such a small role.

Yes! I was discussing the movie with some friends of mine yesterday, and one of them said he thought we learned as much or more about Achilles through Eudorus as we did through anything Achilles ever did/said.

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I lied, I did have another comment...

In regards to the Paris v. Menaloas scene:

I was very embarassed because I was the ONLY person in the threatre that burst into crippling fits of laughter during that scene. This was much to the annoyance of the ENTIRE theatre... Thankfully, I was alone, so I didnt embarass any of the people I was with. I just thought it was extremely hilarious... I don't know why exactly. Its the sadistic part of me I supose Twisted Evil So admits the huffing teenage girls who were offended by the whole Orli-gets-the-living-crap-beat-out-of-him scene already (just made worse by my laughter) and 'shut the hell ups' I managed to ruin the entire scene for everybody. Very Happy

I only felt bad afterwards.

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're such a snot BB. I didn't burst out laughing during that scene, but it was truly pathetic to watch Paris get the tar beat out of him by Menelaus. The crowning moment of pathetic behavior was when he dragged his bleeding self over to big bro Hector and grabbed his leg. Heck, if I was Menelaus I would have booted the boy in his arse and used him for a soccer ball. Twisted Evil But Paris sure must have been smoking the crack pipe if he thought that he had a snowball's chance in hell of actually beating a battle hardened warrior. All I have to say is that porking Helen must sure have been mighty special for Paris to do something as boneheaded as that Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw Troy yesterday with a group of girlfriends. One had already seen it and was basically ready to build her own temple to Eric B. Ok, yes, nice, very nice so where has he been hiding? Smile
I kept mutttering thru the entire picture to one friend, 'If they kill Bean's character...I'm gonna be pissed' and the other one kept saying 'Who is Sean Bean' to which I asked which rock she had crawled from under. Lots of hot guys running around in skirts with pointy sticks in general, OK flic, great way to pass a rainy afternoon:).
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sindohte and I were discussing OB's acting. I think we decided that he needs to take a Xanax or something before he goes on set. He always seems so tight and nervous. Which worked really well for the scene with Menelaus, which is probably why it was his best scene.

I thought he did a pretty good job on the whole of portraying a naive, spoiled, fuck-up sort of guy who basically had a good heart but very little discipline or common sense through most of the movie. I did think the scene where Helen tells him she loves him despite his lack of warrior prowess was kind of sweet.

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roisin wrote:
Sindohte and I were discussing OB's acting. I think we decided that he needs to take a Xanax or something before he goes on set. He always seems so tight and nervous. Which worked really well for the scene with Menelaus, which is probably why it was his best scene.

I thought he did a pretty good job on the whole of portraying a naive, spoiled, fuck-up sort of guy who basically had a good heart but very little discipline or common sense through most of the movie. I did think the scene where Helen tells him she loves him despite his lack of warrior prowess was kind of sweet.

Roisin


Having seen The Calcuim Kid, I'm going to agree with you. That film did give me hope for his acting abilities, it does have some good patches, but the rest of the time something just isn't right. It's almost like he's trying too hard sometimes and it comes out over-played and a bit on the ridiculous side. He also needs to work on his accents. Kent isn't that far from south London and the number of times his accent slipped was more than I could keep track of!

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OB just needs to be in a nice present day movie where he doesn't have to worry about switching accents, wearing wigs, or wearing period costumes. That is why Roisin and I are looking forward to seeing Orli in Haven. We just think that it will be the perfect opportunity to be himself - average, young Englishman. Then the poor dear won't need to take a Xanax before acting. However I did volunteer for the important job of serving as OB's tension relief Wink
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends what English accent they make him do! I think I would die of laughter if I ever heard him try anything north of Watford (southern's definition of north England)!
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