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VanatheEverYoung
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| DarkElfChilde wrote: | It's good to ask yourself,
"What would my readers enjoy, and what would they not like?" |
With apologies, I think this is bollocks, and I'm not even English. I want to write a story to express something - some idea, perspective, question I have about LOTR. I could give a rat's ass what the readers might want, until I've posted, of course and then I'm checking for reviews every thirty seconds. But I don't write that way. |
I have to agree with Nancy. When I write, I just tell the story as I see it. I might be limiting who my stories appeal to, but at least I'm satisfied with them. And I also check my reviews too much. 
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Lately, most of my stories begin with a line of dialog, then maybe an answer or a little background, in an effort to get someone on board without showing them the map.
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That is one of my pet peeves. Nothing personal, Nancy. I just can't stand reading a line of dialogue right off. It's a rare writer who can pull that off to my satisfaction. Some people probably hate my approach of focusing on a character's thoughts and having no dialogue for most of the first chapter.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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What I meant about the "What would my readers enjoy, and what would they not like?" isn't what you think but I'll make it clear...
My apologies of not making the statement clear first, but most of the time (not all the time), I ask myself that question or something like that because I'm slightly paranoid of what others will think of my stories.
But that doesn't stop me from posting them, and of course, it takes me a little bit to post a story or new chapters because I want to get them right as much as I can. I actually enjoy reviews, tells me what they like or didn't like, or advice to change something around and whatnot.
I could make them better over time, or keep them the way it is...afterall, it's my story, and it's my choice to listen to my audiences who will help me become a better writer. In my opinion, I think the readers are the most valuable tool if they give the right type of review like everyone does here. Agree?
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For me there are two types of writing. Being an author who writes out a story for the sake of an audience or writing a story for the sake of telling a story.
Reviews where there's constructive criticism or even compliments just help the author change or improve upon their writing.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| VanatheEverYoung wrote: |
I have to agree with Nancy. When I write, I just tell the story as I see it. I might be limiting who my stories appeal to, but at least I'm satisfied with them. And I also check my reviews too much. . |
I check my reviews far too much. Partly that's from paranoia and partly from having nothing better to do. I also didn't know how addicted I was to this sort of online thing until I came over here for Christmas and have limited online time. 
Anyhow, I think I probably am like DEC in a way, in that I write for myself, but at the back of my mind I always have comments and suggestions that people have given me. Sort of like, I will tell the story I want to tell, and I will develop my characters the way I want, but I also want to make sure that the technical aspects of the story work well for readers. so that the story I want to tell comes across properly, if that makes sense. I don't really get wound up over 'would people want to read this story, or a story about the Witch King's teenage years' or whatever, but I do think about the way I structure it, and what makes things better for people to read etc, like improving my grammar and description.
That's just me  Hope that makes sense.
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VanatheEverYoung
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, that makes sense. Most of what you think doesn't make sense usually does. I have yet to misunderstand one of your posts.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| DarkElfChilde wrote: | It's good to ask yourself,
"What would my readers enjoy, and what would they not like?" |
| NancyBrooke wrote: | | With apologies, I think this is bollocks ... |
| NancyBrooke wrote: | | Lately, most of my stories begin with a line of dialog |
| VannatheEverYoung wrote: | | That is one of my pet peeves. Nothing personal, Nancy. I just can't stand reading a line of dialogue right off. |
See above re: what the reader would like ... 
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VanatheEverYoung
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| Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Right. That's why I thought it would be okay to say it. 
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I honestly don't mind a fic starting with a line of dialogue. I have read some very good stories starting that way, so that you want to then read the descriptive prose to find out what is going on. But I can see how people might not like it. I know I have done it in the past in stories, but I don't know if I've started any stories here with dialogue.
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