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Krystallin
Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Posts: 1 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Hello. Yes, I visited her site as well, I did a search after Miriel told us. And the link to Shelter from the Storm, which is the story she filched from Miriel is no longer up, or at least the link is broken. I was not able to look further, as I was at work and it was time to shoot off home.
I am always shocked by people behaving like that, I like to think most of them are decent at heart, a naive conception maybe, but hell, I would hate to have to copy stories or such, the challenge of writing is in creating your own work, and improving upon it each time you create a new piece. Half the fun is dreaming up the plot, and the characters and experimenting with them. Dialogue is so exciting to write adhoc.
To simply plagiarise to me is a waste of time, resources and completely unoriginal. It provides no challenge, and surely one who does it can experience no pride in their work! For it is not their own, gained by hard sweat, late nights, agonising and stubborn muses, and the tears when you live the life of your characters.
hehe ok, I have rabbited enough lol.
Oh by the way its Arababy who rocks my boat! Heheh Boromir is nice enough I suppose but the arrows keep getting in the way.
xx Krys [http://www.geocities.com/yasmin_toshido/index.html][/url] |
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miriel361
Joined: 10 Jun 2003 Posts: 417
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Does anyone know of a story about Denthor giving his sons a sexual slave (female)? |
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dolarabee Site Admin

Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Posts: 175 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 4:35 am Post subject: |
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It rings a bell. Someone posted one a few days ago, I'm sure. Not here, but on one of the lists I'm on. Why?
do. _________________ Je sais de la vie qu'elle se termine souvent au lit,
Et que d'autres ont bien plus de chance trépassent de rire ou de jouissance,
Mais pire que la mort qui vient c'est l'amour qui ne vient jamais.
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Andreth
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 1211
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Miriel,
I finally got around to looking through the forums and found this thread. I'm very sorry you and Scribe both had this done to you. Some people obviously have difficulty understanding the difference between fanfiction and plagarism.
But on to my point - after searching around on the net I found this girl's website and her live journal. I checked the Boromir/Denethor story out and yes, I do recognize it. She's altered it - obviously with more effort to disguise it than she usually takes - but I still recognized it within reading just a few paragraphs. I cannot remember where I saw it or even what the title was because I didn't read beyond the first chapter, but the original story wasn't about a girl slave. Legolas was the slave purchased and it was an AU story. If I remember correctly it was supposed to be something along the lines of Boromir ending up as King/Steward instead of Aragorn, and Aragorn actually worked as a servant of sorts for Boromir.
It ran something like this - Boromir is looking at slaves to purchase with someone else, can't remember who, might have been Faramir, and Boromir sees Legolas (although it doesn't say yet that he's Legolas) and decides he has to have him for his slash fantasies. They take Legolas with his hands bound back to the palace and there he meets Aragorn, who speaks Sindarin to Legolas and gets him to trust him. Legolas tells him who he is and Aragorn gives him some basic idea of what's going on there at the castle and how to behave around Boromir.
That's all I remember. It wasn't a bad story, actually pretty good, but I never got back around to reading it. And damned if I can remember what the name of the story was or even where I saw it. After you hit 30 your brain automatically stores all useful information in a separate folder until you don't need it anymore.
I will put my mind to it and see if I can recall but in the mean time, does this story sound familiar to anyone? It was within the last four or five months that I read it.
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Andreth
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 1211
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Oh *looks around in embarrassment* Nevermind - The name of the story was Through Bitter Chains, it finally came to me, and I went back and looked it over. Some similarities, but not enough to be the same story. Darn it! I really thought I had it! Oh well, I will keep my eye out and ask around. Sorry to have cried wolf!  |
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miriel361
Joined: 10 Jun 2003 Posts: 417
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for looking anyway. Let me know if you find anything else.  |
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LuthienTinuviel
Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 354 Location: Dancing in the clouds.
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 8:25 am Post subject: |
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*shocked*
People actually plagiarise fanfics??
It's awful that it's done on anyone, and I think whoever did it is a twerp. Besides, everyone has their own specific style of writing and line of thought that's distinctively different that others. It reflects on one's mind.
I wonder why anyone would bother, since it's so easy to detect.  _________________ }}}}}Life's a journey you unfold with each step.{{{{{ |
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Meleka

Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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It is so sad that people have to resort to stealing other people work. Im a reader not a writer. Id love to give writing a go but ill wait until i have and idea that my OWN before i do it!!!
And how dumb can you be to steal a story of SCRIBE derrr like your not gonna get caught. And my favourite story too. Grrrrr makes me angry.
People are going to know if the story is not your own as they will most likely have read it elsewhere.
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Scribe

Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 4 Location: Betelgeuse
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| Meleka wrote: |
It is so sad that people have to resort to stealing other people work. Im a reader not a writer. Id love to give writing a go but ill wait until i have and idea that my OWN before i do it!!!
And how dumb can you be to steal a story of SCRIBE derrr like your not gonna get caught. And my favourite story too. Grrrrr makes me angry.
People are going to know if the story is not your own as they will most likely have read it elsewhere.
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Okay, Mel can stay
I don't think it stung that my story was stolen but the fact that the little twit had authors notes describing the creative process and then had the gall to tell people not to stealy, stealy stealy, her story. This is what was supposed to have written Easterling...I must go go watch Orlando to calm down...  |
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Meleka

Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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She did WHAT! 'authors notes' you say
Which means she would have tried to take full credit for everything Melia included (she rocks by the way) ....pity you cant slap someone over the internet
Must remember to breathe no more caffeine for me today.
 _________________ Is it bad to want Glorfindel and Haldir chained to my bed..... |
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Roisin

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 449 Location: U.S.A.
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yeah, and one of the other worst parts (there were so many!) was that she changed "Melia" to "Aaliyah" or something similar, which caused Sindohte and I to joke that we should change *our* OFC's name to Ashanti.
Just silliness.
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Meleka

Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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stitches, sides hurt, laughing too hard
How old was this girl?? Even im more creative than that!!! _________________ Is it bad to want Glorfindel and Haldir chained to my bed..... |
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Roisin

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 449 Location: U.S.A.
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Well she certainly seemed immature, particularly if you read her web site. Whether that dovetails with chronological youth in her case, I can't say.
The other thing that was so funny/sad, was that her "author's notes" were so childish and clearly could not have been written by the same person who wrote the fic, which has a much more "mature" voice.
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Meleka

Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Considering the emotional content and the NC-17 content, i think most readers would have picked some discrepancy up if you hadn't read the easterling already.
Thats insulting to both the original author and the reader...
Ah well.
Good truimphs over evil yet again  _________________ Is it bad to want Glorfindel and Haldir chained to my bed..... |
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miriel361
Joined: 10 Jun 2003 Posts: 417
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:23 am Post subject: |
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We believe it was the same girl who stole one of my stories. An NC-17 story. Only this time she took the basic story and tried to rewrite it. She inserted whole paragraphs or changed one or two words in a sentence.
As to being young, she was 22 years old, which is old enough to know better I think.
In any case she posted on a site where I use another name. So in a way I was lucky to find out what was going on.
Once she was discovered, she refused to acknowledge that she had done anything wrong. In fact she managed to turn herself into a victim by complaining that people were flaming her. She even wrote some pretty viscious things to me, although I was doing my best to calm things down and reassure her. I've still kept those mails as proof that there are bloody obnoxious people out there.
On her site, she has amazingly well written fanfiction. She is Italian and after the mess she made of my story, I'm can hardly believe that she is capable of writing such grammatically correct English. But I can't prove it. |
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