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Viv Challenge Admin

Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Posts: 71 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | | Gandalf can assume any shape he likes? |
Not as Gandalf the Grey. Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, and the Blue Wizards were special creatures (hmm... I think the long explanation is in The Peoples of Middle Earth, a section called Istari): They had the soul (fea) of a Maia combined with a mortal body. Therefore, they experienced pain, hunger, discomfort, and all the fun things us mortals deal with. But their souls were immortal. So, when Gandalf the Grey "died" in Moria, it was just the death of his mortal body. He thought that was the end, and he could go home. Alas, the Valar sent him back with a spirit-form body ("Gandaf the White") to finish his mission.
As Gandalf the White, yes, he could change physical form and defy physics (note super-fast travelling ability).
The Valar gave wizards mortal bodies to limit them, so that they *couldn't* take over the world. They wanted the mortals to fight this one more or less on their own... with a little nudge out of the door, so to speak. |
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sheraiah

Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 28
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2003 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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I have a serious soft spot for elves, but I will read any story that sounds interesting regardless of what race the protagonist(s) happens to be. I've read good elf stories, good man stories( gotta love Boromir!), and good hobbit stories, but the one character I just haven't found much of interest on is Gimli unless Legolas is in the story as well. Wonder why that is? I mean, I loved the character in the movies.
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sindohte

Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 1621 Location: Rubbing up against an Elf
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| sheraiah wrote: | I just haven't found much of interest on is Gimli unless Legolas is in the story as well. Wonder why that is? I mean, I loved the character in the movies.
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Hmm, I think it has something to do with the fact that PJ didn't spend any time showing us the daily lives of the dwarves. Unfortunately the only dwarves in the movie, besides Gimli, were those crusty, crumbling skeletons from Moria. _________________ abandon thought, and let the dream descend... |
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Elentari

Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 254 Location: Lost in elven dreams...
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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I am so not thinking about gandalf shapes...
anyway, I myself stick to Elf and human, not necessarily elf/human. I love legolas, but there are other elves I like as well.
I particularly enjoy (gasp!) Celeborn/Galadriel fics, Elrond/Celebrian fics and also Thranduil stories.
In the world of men, I am a HUGE fan of Eomer. that's it, the Third Marshal just got me hooked -and that was before the movies (not that I'm complaining about Karl Urban -and Dolarabee is not in driving distance from me, lol). Faramir is not a bad guy either .
so yes, I tend to go for the characters I like. However, if I find a story with an interesting enough plot, I might risk it... I've had very pleasant surprises like that...  |
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dolarabee Site Admin

Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Posts: 175 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 1:55 am Post subject: |
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| Elentari wrote: | | the Third Marshal just got me hooked -and that was before the movies (not that I'm complaining about Karl Urban -and Dolarabee is not in driving distance from me, lol). |
Wow, Scribe is really giving me a reputation here, isn't she?
Well, I was hooked on Eomer before the movie too. But bloody hell, did Karl do a good job of it or what? I mean the guy has like 3 minutes of screen time in the whole of The Two Towers and he managed to rock the world for many.
<sigh>
do. (stepping off the 'vote for KU' bandwagon - for now) _________________ Je sais de la vie qu'elle se termine souvent au lit,
Et que d'autres ont bien plus de chance trépassent de rire ou de jouissance,
Mais pire que la mort qui vient c'est l'amour qui ne vient jamais.
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Elentari

Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 254 Location: Lost in elven dreams...
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 7:30 am Post subject: |
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I am so not thinking about Gandalf's shapes...
Anyway, about species. I am rather fond of elves, but will find some time for mortal's fics if the plot is intresting enough.
The characters I'm most likely to read about are: Galadriel and Celeborn (gasp!), Thranduil, Legolas, Elrond and Celebrian (gasp! gasp!). In the World of Men I tend to stick with Faramir and Eomer/Lothiriel -Dolarabee is not in driving distance from me, lol.
Hm... wonder if she will block my account here or something...
hey! Friends! |
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PearlTook
Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 3 Location: Illinois, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Hi!
Well, as can be told from my fics, I'm a hobbit person. From my first reading of the books, they were my preference. The Elves just seemed a bit above it all; most every book written is about Men (humans), I didn't need Tolkien for them; the Dwarves are cool; but I love the little furry-footed guys.
In terms of fanfic, I'm trying to broaden my horizons but the best I usually manage is Fellowship based where it's everyone. Katakanadian's newest, I think it's "By Previous Arrangement", is a noteworthy exception as there are no hobbits in it at all and I'm really enjoying it! I will continue to make the effort to read more non-hobbit fanfic. |
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Ariel

Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Posts: 164
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 10:13 am Post subject: Non-hobbit fics |
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Well, I am into hobbits - and am one of the few people I know who write hobbit smut that is het. I do try to get into other fics, and definitely enjoy good Boz smut :p but try as I might, the other characters and races don’t turn me on. I can enjoy them, but when it comes to pure ‘D’ sexual appeal, to me it’s the earthy and grounded hobbit-folk. I may be fairly unique in my perversions, but hey, at least I have fun.
About the only race/group I can’t get too excited about are the elves. I think it’s their uppity nature and their perfection that leaves me cold. I know all of those exciting and passionate things that they did in the Sil but they have just always seemed so remote – so unlike ‘me’. I think the species we can see ourselves as most has a lot to do with the species we like to read. I am sort of roundish, I have hair on my feet and a fairly cheery disposition. I also love nature and growing things, and the rich feel of the good earth. I am either an entwife or a hobbit – and seeing as hobbits get more action, I’ll take them!
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Hathor

Joined: 09 Jun 2003 Posts: 346 Location: Lancashire, England
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:34 am Post subject: |
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About the only race/group I can’t get too excited about are the elves. I think it’s their uppity nature and their perfection that leaves me cold.
I've had this argument with my Dad (f you take away the whole "which do you fancy?" aspect... having that sort of conversation with el parento would freak me out FAR too much)
When I first read the books, upon insistence of him, we would get into long arguments over whether Elves were actually that... well... snobbish, or if that's just the side we see in LOTR.
If you read LOTR purely by itself, the Elves come across as standoffish and rather apart from everyone else, with the occasional exception of Legolas once you get into TTT. But look at The Hobbit- Elves of Rivendell greeting the Dwarves with fairly childish taunts and songs of "tra la la lally, down in the valley"
And yeah, I'm an all-rounder. As long as the story is well-written, I'll read anything. Mind you, I'd love to see a Gimli story one of the days... _________________ ~Hathor~
Owner of 'Just Another Hole' and Lindir, The Pretty Noldo Totty
Postatem obscuri lateris nescitis... |
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Ariel

Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Posts: 164
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps it is because of the style of the Sil - much more distant and textbooky - that I somehow lose the sense of 'heat'. I know they did all these wonderfully dramatic things, I mean, just from reading the facts you can tell that Feanor was an incredibly firey, dynamic and fascinating character, but the LOTRS gives me the microscope that I needed to really be able to get 'inside' the characters... and the ones that fit best were, of course, the hobbits.
That said, I enjoy the microscope that Silmfics place onto that text but I'd still prefer they mentioned hobbits once in a while too...
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Maram68 Challenge Admin

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 535 Location: West from East
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Well ... there are elves and elves ...
Though it is obvious that I am a Legolas fan, I have a great weakness for the sons of Elrond as well.
In my head, I think I find some treats of humanity in them.
But hey, thats me.  |
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Panneth

Joined: 10 Jun 2003 Posts: 0 Location: Manchester/London
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 6:23 am Post subject: |
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I'm definitely an elf person. They're meant to enchant us after all. They're meant to be these perfect beings but if you dig deeper they just aren't. I tend to write about Legolas because I think there's the most room for interpretation as very little is known about him.
And obviously Orlando Bloom aids the inspiration  |
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Viv Challenge Admin

Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Posts: 71 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| Maram68 wrote: | | I have a great weakness for the sons of Elrond as well. |
Um, it's best if I keep this very short. Yes-I-am-in-squealy-fangirly-pornification-with-the-sons-of-elrond.
And it sort of helps an elf to have a name that could be interpreted as "Lord of Horses." Makes you wanna just saddle up, eh?
So, yes. Sons of Elrond. |
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Elentari

Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 254 Location: Lost in elven dreams...
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Oh, gosh...
I so need to find a boyfriend.
Yeap. definitely riding urges here.
(specially with the guy I picture as the twin sons of elrond. whoa...)  |
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Maram68 Challenge Admin

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 535 Location: West from East
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Elentari wrote: | Oh, gosh...
I so need to find a boyfriend.
Yeap. definitely riding urges here.
(specially with the guy I picture as the twin sons of elrond. whoa...)  |
Care to share the visual candy .. errrrrrrr ... inspiration?
I need to wake up the muse again! _________________ Lord, grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the Courage to change the things I can and the Wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I may have to kill because they piss me off. |
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