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ZeeDrippyVessel
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Empty Vessel by ZeeDrippyVessel
"Oh. I was thinking I was a bitch. Must be a step up!"
"Smart-ass Elf! You wish to play!"
"I have this rule about not arguing with...um...beings who don't have the IQ I have! For the love of Mike - Do you have a name?" |
Thank you for the plug...
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Trying to do that as we speak. (Thanks for the plug)
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* The Twins (Elrohir and Elladan) are pranksters scamps who are very successful with the ladies |
uhm... looks at TL and its implications.... thanks for the plug...
| Quote: | | *Where Thranduil/Celeborn are pervs (see also Empty Vessel) |
Thanks for the plug...
| Quote: | | *Stories that go out on a limb and do not fit the mold |
Thanks for the plug
| Quote: | | *Funny smut - removing armor with their teeth, breaking tables during a snog, etc. |
This is getting old. Thanks for the plug.
| Quote: | | *Legolas washing up on a beach - bound..... |
No.
You know there has been a VERY interesting thread on one of my HP groups - about a story that did NOT have a happy ending... and the screaming, the carrying on over this has just... it just floors me the audacity of some readers. I'm not saying opinions mean nothing, but when readers tell you "You should have written it this way" or " you should have written it that way," or "How DARE you write that," it makes me wonder.
But then again, I have had a LOUSY week, so don't mind me...
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ArtanisOrangeBlossom
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:38 am Post subject: |
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lol *hugs Zee*
don't worry. i've gotten flames like that once...my first fic and i think i cried for like 10 minutes! LOL
--one thing i'd like to see...is some changing of the seasons. I understand that in Lorien there may be no change (or very small ones) but what about the visitors?
surely they don't constantly walk around in summer-wear? LOL let us see that time passes. Not just in an Elf's maturity...but in the way people react. Some people (no matter if the seasons ARE a constant) may be a little more reclusive in the winter and the opposite in the summer.
Let us see it! *grins*
Shameless plug: Chapter 2 of Heaven (my Haldir story) is up. *grins* could you guys go read it and review it plllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeee?  |
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Viv
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| ArtanisOrangeBlossom wrote: | | don't worry. i've gotten flames like that once...my first fic and i think i cried for like 10 minutes! LOL |
Is that a flame? I always thought flames were more like "You look like a moose, and have the intellect of an aardvark."
When people get involved enough in one of my stories to lament the fates of characters, I take that as a compliment. If the characters weren't drawn reasonably well, readers wouldn't care. |
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Viv
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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By the way: 
Anybody have any more things-we'd-like-to-see-in-fic? |
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ghettoelleth
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| Viv wrote: | By the way:
Anybody have any more things-we'd-like-to-see-in-fic? |
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT "G" DAMN DWARF STAND UP, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE !
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ArtanisOrangeBlossom
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what ghetto? For Gimli stand up and knock Lego in the knees? *laughs* not to prod him to go get the girl like he always does but just for the hell of it.
 you know i'm sick and tired of seeing Gimli prod Lego into romance....what if Lego prodded Gimli into romance? hmm!? HMM!? |
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Viv
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| ghettoelleth wrote: | | I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT "G" DAMN DWARF STAND UP, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE ! |
If you insist, although he's lying down at the moment. Nekkid. 
Other thing I'd like to read more in fic: plots that don't take the easy way out. I've just realized (an epiphany!) that the best fics are the ones where it'd be so easy to have the heroine (or hero) do the cliche thing: sneak out after the fellowship, climb up the Meneltarma to experience a dramatic and heroic death, blush, giggle, say yes to a particularly flattering question. In excellent stories, that never happens. Sometimes, I guess, it's worth it to jus surprise the hell out of the reader.
~still learning stuff about plot |
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ArtanisOrangeBlossom
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i dunno..i mean sometimes that is a good thing. Then again it's nice to see an author take the horribly uneasy way out.
It's very refreshing. *grins* |
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DarkElfChilde
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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-coughs-
I would like to see an ending that isn't so happy...ish. Oh...wait...I know one of mine won't. 
- DEC
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Viv
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| DarkElfChilde wrote: | | I would like to see an ending that isn't so happy...ish. |
Having written several tragic endings, I can say that response can be offputting. One dear friend won't read any more of my lotrfic because she was so disturbed by a less-than-happy ending. Just fair warning to anyone who tries it.
Though, like DEC, I do enjoy an emotional thud at the end, now and then. |
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SpaceWeavil
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Viv wrote: | | DarkElfChilde wrote: | | I would like to see an ending that isn't so happy...ish. |
Having written several tragic endings, I can say that response can be offputting. One dear friend won't read any more of my lotrfic because she was so disturbed by a less-than-happy ending. Just fair warning to anyone who tries it.
Though, like DEC, I do enjoy an emotional thud at the end, now and then. |
I had a friend said the same thing about my sci-fi stories, because those rarely had happy endings. Thing with that though was that the series we were writing for never had happy endings and quite often was ambiguous, but that didn't seem to matter.
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ArtanisOrangeBlossom
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I think one thing people sometimes forget is that Lord Of The Rings didn't end happily. It ended but not happily ever after like people would like to think.
It simply ended. It says that Sam went back to Hobbiton and Rosie (not to mention the kids) and said "well..i'm back." doesn't seem very happy to me you know?
The obsession w/ happy endings comes from Disney. I'm convinced of it. Just like today my mom turned into this awwing thing at a talking animal....lol! |
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SpaceWeavil
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I just thought of an actual thing relevant to this thread -
More canon-based stories or gap-fillers. Whereas I'll read OFC-centric stories and very very occasionally I'll read 'girl / woman falls into ME' things, but I so prefer canon stuff. I'd love to see more stories that take oscure or unclear parts of canon and propose an explanation, like 'why did so-and-so say that at that particular moment?' or 'why did he do that there' stories.
That kind of falls under 'more stories with lesser-known / used characters' as well.
If anyone's got any recommendations for fics like that, let me know
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Andreth
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| Viv wrote: | | Khazar and Spaceweavil are satisfying my long-held desire for witchking fic (thank you both), but there's always room for more baddie-centered fic. (Hello, Andreth. *waves*) |
Your wish is my command. Have reposted said story. I gave up on rewriting and just contented myself with adding bits here and there. (And Inglor, I kept the Elf-slut - just for you. )
I agree with you about wanting to see evil guys written with some depth. It's easy enough to say 'this guy's evil', but what interests me is how they *got there* in the first place.
| Quote: | | Galadriel/Celebrimbor. That's one of the most understated high-drama things in Tolkien, I think, and people just disregard it. Argh. |
Now it's you rummaging around in my mind. (Can you help me balance my bank account while you're in there?) This is one thing I would LOVE to see written about. I never see it, so I've given up and decided to add it to my own story. The thought of an unrequited love like that is so sad and makes you wonder whether or not it had anything to do with Celebrimbor making the Elven rings in the first place.
| Sindohte wrote: | | Don't even get me started on the subject of Annatar and a certain lovely writer by the name of Anna. I shall have to console myself with the Witch King. If certain people are not going to write about my beloved Maia, I shall be forced to do so myself |
Thank you for the encouragement, oh other half of mine, but if me not writing will get more Annatare chapters then I think I might have to stay on strike for a while longer.  And in case anyone missed it Khazar updated a few weeks or so ago. Many yays for that.
I would also like to see Gandalf fics, Tom Bombadil possible explanations fics, will second Viv's comment about seeing more Tolkien monsters in stories. Do you guys know how many nasties there really are in Tolkien's stories? Helluva lot more than just orcs and dragons. Give me some werewolf and Mewlips stories. Or Telvido or Thuringwethil. Tell me how the Candles of Corpses or the Silent Watchers came about.
What are Pharazon and his bunch doing down there in the Caves of the Forgotten? How are they going to be used in the Last Battle? Will they be like the Armies of the Dead and have to fight to earn their pardon?
Okay, I'm going to stop now. I'm giving myself ideas for stories I'll never have time to write. I guess the main thing I would like to see in fanfic stories is the same thing I look for in all other books and tales - something that hasn't been done before. Or if it has been done before at least use it in an imaginative way. Most stories (and movies) I can pretty much figure out how things are going to end before I'm even halfway through. The ones I really, really enjoy are the ones that take turns and have endings that make me thing 'damn, I didn't see that coming'. |
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inglor
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| Andreth wrote: | Your wish is my command. Have reposted said story. I gave up on rewriting and just contented myself with adding bits here and there. (And Inglor, I kept the Elf-slut - just for you. )
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The box of Krispy Kremes is in route. I was afraid she'd been edited.
Which brings me to the subject at hand: LaCE acknowledged Smut .
Not just because you want horny supermodels posing as Elves. I like seeing the LaCE undermined in creative ways (thanks again Anna) , not just ignored. They are part of the canon and weedling your way around it makes for much more enjoyable smut. Gives me an excuse, b/c in the back of my mind, I know they exist and until you give me an out, it takes away from the realism of the smut.
Bringing me to: Kinky Married sex. JaneDoe (among others) did it right and all within the bounds of the LaCE.
On the non-smutty side:
A good Turin basher would be nice, maybe an A/U where Saeros makes Turin his bitch or something.
More Pre LoTR Gap Fillers.
Elves in present day stuff is fun too. The whole Maglor in History on the Silfics list is great.
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