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Hey, for all you more well 'net traveled than I, are other sites buzzing with ideas? What are they saying? Any names continually surfacing that we haven't mentioned? Of course, if there is a popular nominee, sure thing s/he won't get it.
And that's another thing - are there any women directors out there you would recommend?
How about Ang Lee? I know, he's a he, but it just came to me.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| dolarabee wrote: | | Rhapsody wrote: | | Hmmm but well, the way Gladiator was filmed just has something. That has potential for the epic feel to me. He has done many great and epic movies that I still would list him as a fav. |
Oh, me too. I was just trying to do the pros and cons... |
I know, but I think he's too big for it. I wonder if New Line is willing to pay him for directing it.
| dolarabee wrote: | | Rhapsody wrote: | | Actually yes, I can see Paul Verhoeven do it. I am so familair with his Dutch movies and track record that I know he can pull it off. |
Ha, see, I haven't seen those and I'm not really familiar with his body of work. I'm just thinking Total Recall and Starship Troopers and I just can't reconcile that style with what might work with The Hobbit. |
Well Zwartboek (Black Book) hit the cinema's in the States (not sure about Australia) and was the best film last weekend at the box office (what we heard over here in the news about it), then there is De Vierde Man, Soldaat van Oranje, Keetje Tippel and oh yeah Turks Fruit (loved both the book and movie). But then again, I am utterly prejudiced, being Dutch.
| dolarabee wrote: | | Rhapsody wrote: | How about Kevin Smith  Nobody has mentioned Mel Gibson (either a nay or a yay) yet.. |
Haven't seen Gibson's latest... actually, didn't see The Passion of the Christ either. So can't really say how far he's developped as a director. |
I am woe fully behind with watching any movie currently. Especially Gibson's work.
| dolarabee wrote: | While we're on actors-turned-directors, let's keep Costner away.  |
Agreed
| dolarabee wrote: | | Rhapsody wrote: | | I haven't see it suggested yet, but how about the director of King Arthur, Antoine Fuqua? |
I don't know, I guess it could work... but King Arthur did miss something. Worth seeing, don't get me wrong, but it lacked something. |
For me it was too rushed at certain points. The Hobbit would need good screen writers.
| dolarabee wrote: | | What about M. Night Shyamalan? ::shudders:: Don't get me wrong, I SEE DEAD PEOPLE (The Sixth Sense) was pretty good but what followed was more pretentious and not really 'delivering'. I'm thinking Signs and The Village. |
Yeah, that would be very interesting!!
| SpaceWeavil wrote: | If Mel Gibson did it would they all have to speak in Elvish, Westron and the Black Speech?  |
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| Rhapsody wrote: | | I haven't see it suggested yet, but how about the director of King Arthur, Antoine Fuqua? |
| Do wrote: | | I don't know, I guess it could work... but King Arthur did miss something. |
I agee, it lacked heart. Somehow it had heat, action, and character, but no heart - and no sense of humor. |
Did you forget about Dagonet? Bors? Those two were my favs and even more so, ever since I really like Ray Stevenson. I think King Arthur used those two elements extremely well.
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NancyBrooke
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| Rhapsody wrote: | | Did you forget about Dagonet? Bors? Those two were my favs and even more so, ever since I really like Ray Stevenson. I think King Arthur used those two elements extremely well. |
I did, and that says something. You make me want to see it again, though.
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What about the guy who did Excalibur? Don't know who he was but that was a great movie and I think he did an excellent job. Also the Kingdom of Heaven was well done I think. There are so many directors but I think whoever does it will have to have the same obsessive passion for Tolkien that Peter Jackson did. And yes, I agree 300% about King Kong. That movie was so bad!!!
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Alassante wrote: | | What about the guy who did Excalibur? |
This is what the director, John Boorman said about Excalibur:
On his failed attempt at bringing writer J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings to the screen) "Everything I learned, the technical problems I had to resolve in planning for 'The Lord Of The Rings,' I applied to Excalibur (1981). That was my recompense."
So yeah... 
| Quote: | | Also the Kingdom of Heaven was well done I think. |
That movie was produced by Ridley Scott....
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | When we've hashed this about enough, anyone game to guess at actors??   [/i] |
Would it be overkill to once again say NOT Kevin Costner?
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Actor no no's
Bilbo: Orlando Bloom, Tom Cruise, Vince Vaughn, Vin Diesel
Thranduil: Michael Chiklis, William Shatner, Anthony Hopkins and that dude that played Big Pussy on the Sopranos.
I think those are all relatively safe choices for HELL NO!
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| ghettoelleth wrote: | Actor no no's
Bilbo: Orlando Bloom, Tom Cruise, Vince Vaughn, Vin Diesel
Thranduil: Michael Chiklis, William Shatner, Anthony Hopkins and that dude that played Big Pussy on the Sopranos.
I think those are all relatively safe choices for HELL NO! |
I can see William Shatner playing Elrond..... Yea, I can see it.... Someone please hand me something to gouge my eyes out with. 
My vote for the big NO list; Steven Seagal as,,,, anybody..... anywhere..... ever......
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | | Rhapsody wrote: | | Did you forget about Dagonet? Bors? Those two were my favs and even more so, ever since I really like Ray Stevenson. I think King Arthur used those two elements extremely well. |
I did, and that says something. You make me want to see it again, though. |
Me too! I have it on glorious DVD, the directors cut, so I am bringing the popcorn!
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| ghettoelleth wrote: | Actor no no's
Bilbo: Orlando Bloom, Tom Cruise, Vince Vaughn, Vin Diesel |
I am concerned that they will try to sneak Orlando Bloom in there... but as Bilbo! OMG G That's a mental image that makes me shiver. Brrr
| Quote: | Thranduil: Michael Chiklis, William Shatner, Anthony Hopkins and that dude that played Big Pussy on the Sopranos.
I think those are all relatively safe choices for HELL NO! |
Michael Chiklis as one of the dwarves however... I am very fond of Chiklis and to see him as one of those doubting dwarves. I was just wondering and musing... and more often admiring this actor's outstanding acting skills in the Shield: he'd kick ass as Uldor in a possible Silmarillion production.
For me a Thranduil no is: David Bowie, George Clooney, Brad Pitt.
A big yes to a Bard however would be Christian Bale or Eric Bana.
Thranduil yes or would like to see tried: Matt Damon or James Purefoy. Mark Valley is another good looking hottie.
I really would like to see Ian Holm to play Bilbo.
| Ottis413 wrote: | I can see William Shatner playing Elrond..... Yea, I can see it.... Someone please hand me something to gouge my eyes out with.
My vote for the big NO list; Steven Seagal as,,,, anybody..... anywhere..... ever...... |
*shudders* Is Seagal still acting?
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| Rhapsody wrote: | | For me a Thranduil no is: David Bowie, George Clooney, Brad Pitt. |
Ooo, I don't know. I think David Bowie would be great for that. It might be difficult with how recognizable he is, but still, not too large a step from Goblin King to King of Mirkwood.
I think I might have to go watch 'Labyrinth' and ponder the possibilities. 
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| vladazhael wrote: | | Ooo, I don't know. I think David Bowie would be great for that. It might be difficult with how recognizable he is, but still, not too large a step from Goblin King to King of Mirkwood. |
My thoughts exactly. But, I think he may be too obvious a choice. That said, he did such a superd job as Tesla.
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| dolarabee wrote: | | vladazhael wrote: | | Ooo, I don't know. I think David Bowie would be great for that. It might be difficult with how recognizable he is, but still, not too large a step from Goblin King to King of Mirkwood. |
My thoughts exactly. But, I think he may be too obvious a choice. That said, he did such a superd job as Tesla.
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I am sorry, but when I envision Thranduil, he has the elven immortality over him, when I look at this fairly recent image:
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/5305/Events/5305/ImanandDav_Kambo_11141255_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Bowie,%20David%20(I)
It's... no, sorry. It doesn't rock my boat.
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | | Rhapsody wrote: | | Hmmm but well, the way Gladiator was filmed just has something. |
Yes, Russell Crowe!   |
LOL
You're right, Rhaps; Gladiator definitely has something and it's not just Crowe. Maybe it's exactly what King Arthur lacked...
| Rhapsody wrote: | | NancyBrooke wrote: | | I agee, it lacked heart. Somehow it had heat, action, and character, but no heart - and no sense of humor. |
Did you forget about Dagonet? Bors? Those two were my favs and even more so, ever since I really like Ray Stevenson. I think King Arthur used those two elements extremely well. |
Dunno about Nancy but, no, I didn't. Don't get me wrong. I liked the movie enough to see it once or twice on the big screen and then buy it on DVD (extended, unrated, with all the bells and whistles). Stevenson rules and he did for me way before Rome - and I thank King Arthur for that. And I'm also an immense Clive Owen fan. Despite all the good things going for that movie (cast - Owen, Stevenson, Winstone, Gruffudd, Mikkelsen, Skarsgård, Edgerton - and all), it still lacks something - heart, soul, I don't know.
| NancyBrooke wrote: | | Are there any women directors out there you would recommend? |
Hmm... Jane Campion? Niky Caro (Whale Rider)? Karyn Kusama (Æon Flux) maybe?
Oh, and G, Vin Diesel as Bilbo and Shatner as Thranduil, I'm there in a flash.
| Ottis413 wrote: | | My vote for the big NO list; Steven Seagal as.... anybody..... anywhere..... ever...... |
You just had to bring him up, didn't you? ACK!
| Rhapsody wrote: | | when I look at this fairly recent image: It's... no, sorry. It doesn't rock my boat. |
LMAO and I can see why. You know what? I tend to forget that these folks age too. But talking of immortality, a young Spring chicken for the part wouldn't do either. That's what I liked about Elrond, Galadriel and Celeborn. The casting was perfect in that respect. They looked 'ageless'.
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To get the causal fan to come back and watch The Hobbit, I think they'll at the least need to get Ian Holm, Ian McKellen, and Hugo Weaving to reprise their roles. And Andy Serkis is almost a must for Gollum, even if he is CGI....
My wife just suggested Antonio Banderas for the Thranduil role..... 
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