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| Is there a proper age to write fanfiction? |
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Saralitazie
Joined: 17 Apr 2004
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Location: Stamping Property of Litzy the Lush all over Glorfindel.
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| BittenBuggy wrote: | | Perhaps men have more interesting things to do? Like watch sports, play golf and pick their nose? |
Oh, the giggles.  I supposed it's really because men are immenently more practical than women and wouldn't waste their time with such trivial things.
Either that, or supebowl's just too important. Gotta stock up on beer for the next one all year 'round... Did you know you can actually store it in your stomach and not get intoxicated, but choose your own time and place to get drunk? </sarcasm>
*laughs her arse off* Excuse my juvenile humor. I just find the male obsession with beer hilarious.
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Hathor
Joined: 09 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Saralitazie wrote: | | *laughs her arse off* Excuse my juvenile humor. I just find the male obsession with beer hilarious. |
What do you mean, the male obsession? Can't be done with pints, normally, but if I've alreayd been drinking I suddenly turn into The Lager Fiend and really go for pints.
Of course, a 5'4" girl sitting in a pub drinking pints must look a little odd...
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SilverMoonLady
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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No better or worse than one 5' neat tossing back brandy
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Yavanie
Joined: 02 Jun 2004
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Location: Texas
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Took the kids to the grandaparents for the week and have sorely missed this group! I feel so at home!!! I'm the older with kids and hubby who at least gets it a little fan. To everyone who has expressed their own feelings of being a nerd, a geek or just not in the swing of "normal", I say WELCOME HOME, you are accepted here ("course we're all just like you!).
I am so enjoying this site, especially the OSA Cellar!!
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Rous
Joined: 20 Mar 2004
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About men and their hobbies. Do you not just have to love them? Mine is into fireworks. He is happiest when blowing up helpless canteloupes. We are not talking the little things you can buy in Tennesee. We do it professionally. Every weekend there is a show, there I am. Cooking for the crew, running for Gatorade and pop. Supporting him and being cheerful about it. We even started our own company. Guess what? I HATE FIREWORKS. Always have, probably always will. Yet, there I am. And do you know what he says to me? Why do you waste your time? If you have to write, do something original. I am, but he will never get to read it. When I tried to read some of my non-LOTR poetry to him, he looked blank. The damn poem was about him. He still did not get it. If he ever wants to read anything of mine again, he will have to buy the book. And we all know the chances of that happening.
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BittenBuggy
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Location: Busy Being the Queen Of Everything.. And Trying to Catch the Yoda-Copter
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Rous.... 
Men are just quirky. I tell myself that my hubby screaming at the television (and about once a year - breaking the television) when the footie game is on, is normal because it makes me feel better. But being a business man, he is required by divine law to play golf. Guess who can't STAND that stupid game? But guess who gets dragged along because 'all the other wives are coming, it is a social thing, love' Well, it doesnt help that I HATE 'all the other wives' Stupid little uncultured prissy poofs.
When all else fails, flirt with the cute little college-boy-catty. 
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Saralitazie
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Cute little college-boy-catty? Where?! I'm so there! *scampers*
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Eyborg
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Hathor wrote: | Of course, a 5'4" girl sitting in a pub drinking pints must look a little odd...
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It's clear that you have never been to Iceland then  Not that I drink much beer anyway... 
Anyway... I've been thinking about, why there are so few men who write LOTR fanfiction. My theory is this: LOTR is mostly written from a male point of view, so perhaps men don't feel that they have anything to add to it ("As if Tolkien didn't write fucking enough?" was the response I saw once on the internet from one male teenage LOTR fan). While we women probably want to explore the female point of view in Middle Earth.
Or I don't know... but this is the idea I get. |
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SpaceWeavil
Joined: 27 May 2004
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Location: Looking at shiny things
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I used to write a lot of fan fiction for a 70s sci-fi program and for Dr Who, and both of those have quite a lot of male writers. Or at least there is about a 50-50 split males/females as far as I could see. With the sci-fi show, I always found that a lot of the men writer’s stories focused on the technical gadgetry, being clever in how they used the machines etc. [it was a Gerry Anderson show, with loads of spaceship type things and these guys had worked out all the specs]. Same with the Dr Who stuff, although it wasn’t so noticeable there, but they did tend to write more action based stuff that relied heavily on science/technology and sort of problem solving, if you know what I mean, whereas for both, the girls generally were more interested in getting into the heads of the characters and stories that were more personality based. Obviously there were one or two who crossed over these lines, but in general this is what I noticed. Those Gerry Anderson things were all very popular with male fan fic writers, so maybe it is all the gizmos and gadgets that attract blokes to fan fic?
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Rous
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Eyborg wrote: |
Anyway... I've been thinking about, why there are so few men who write LOTR fanfiction. My theory is this: LOTR is mostly written from a male point of view, so perhaps men don't feel that they have anything to add to it ("As if Tolkien didn't write fucking enough?" was the response I saw once on the internet from one male teenage LOTR fan). While we women probably want to explore the female point of view in Middle Earth.
Or I don't know... but this is the idea I get. |
We went to a Christian Marriage Seminar. This is the way it was explained. If information was compared to TV, women would want 60 Minutes, men want the 60 second blurp between commercials.
Say, so and so had a baby. You want to know when, what time, sex name, etc. Standard answer from the husband with the info, I do not know.
If I do not understand what he said to me, he repeats it verbatim. If I did not get it the first time, I surely will not get it the second.
I really think that most, and I stress MOST for Inglor, men tend to think in the concrete. If mine was to write a manual on wiring gravel dredges and the computer systems to run them, it would be a boon to those interested in that type of work. However, it would bore me to homocide. His.
Women tend to think in the abstract. Since I dwell way too much in the fantasy genre, I have noticed that the overwhelming majority of writers are women. C J Cherryh, André Norton, Anne McCaffery are just my personal favorites, but I have read many more. And there are some very good male writers. And I have trashed novels by women after the first chapter, they were so bad.
(Therefore proving to my spouse that nothing is absolute, thus destroying his little black and white world that he is trying to constantly suck me into. I choose to live in my grey fantasy world in the back of my brain. The rent is cheap, and the landlord is much easier to deal with.)
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SilverMoonLady
Joined: 14 Jul 2003
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I desperately wish my dear hubby was *able* to read my stuff, because he is imaginative and intellligent, but he and the written word do not work well together (major learning disabilities involved) and never the twain shall meet. He is nice enough to let me read my stuff to him, though I manage to blush a magnificent rainbow, as it is rather like being on stage with no clothes on (emotionally). He does definitely tend to enjoy the more action-oriented portions and the physical descriptions and such (visual artist) a lot more than the emotion based stuff...
What is rather neat is that at the height of his own LOTR creativity period (sadly waning today) he started a little fanfic of his own, though in a somewhat comic-book type of format. An intersting orcish point of view... wish he had kept with it.
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Viv
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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My hubby writes. We've workshopped some of our original stuff together, and boy was that a bonding experience. But he, like most male writers I know, doesn't want to write fanfic. He just doesn't see the point in writing something he can't sell.
Plus, have you noticed that most fanfic reads like syrupy romance novels? Lots of internal character angsting and psychological plot-arcs. That stuff bores a lot of men (not all). The male writers I know are most impressed by cinematic description, quick pacing, plot twists, and snappy dialogue. I've never met a man who, when discussing a story that he particularly liked, said anything remotely like "OMG that was so good... I cried!" |
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Dan
Joined: 29 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Viv wrote: | | Plus, have you noticed that most fanfic reads like syrupy romance novels? Lots of internal character angsting and psychological plot-arcs. That stuff bores a lot of men (not all). The male writers I know are most impressed by cinematic description, quick pacing, plot twists, and snappy dialogue. I've never met a man who, when discussing a story that he particularly liked, said anything remotely like "OMG that was so good... I cried!" |
I think you hit the nail on the head so to speak. I avoid most nc-17 fanfics that have plot because of all the nonsense. give me smut or give me death. that is much preferred over chapters of love profession. not to say that i dont enjoy multi-chapter pieces of fiction just generally not of the romance genre.
i have done my share of writing however most of it has been done in slash, more specifically, bdsm. it is much easier to escape sappy dialogue and hours of petty sediments. and I get plenty of het-sex at home |
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Viv
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Dan wrote: | | give me smut or give me death. |
Would you mind if I had that tattooed on my buttock? (Must seek permission from copyright holder and all) |
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Dan
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be my guest Viv. I am consitering getting a bumper sticker
| BittenBuggy wrote: | | When all else fails, flirt with the cute little college-boy-catty. |
I happen to know you begged me to come because of the catty |
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