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Sulriel

Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 286 Location: Imladris (or maybe Texas ...)
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| eiranae wrote: | Whoa boy! I hope you're prepared for mass chaos! I don't even get a subject recommendation?
This is going to be difficult.  |
it's hard to get started, it's not hard to keep going.
just sit and write, anything everything. don't think about it, just write.
start out with explaining to yourself why your writing, or "once upon a time" or anything at all to fill the page.
a story will come.  _________________ "May it be a light to you in dark places." |
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Sulriel

Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 286 Location: Imladris (or maybe Texas ...)
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| NeumeIndil wrote: | You're on, Beck.
Yes, just sit down and write. In the mean time, I'm taking a notebook with me to work so I can plan during my breaks. (If anything will help someone grow as a writer, it's trying something different. ) |
hehehehe! *rubbing hands together gleefully* _________________ "May it be a light to you in dark places." |
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Viv Challenge Admin

Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Posts: 71 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Sulriel wrote: | just sit and write, anything everything. don't think about it, just write.
start out with explaining to yourself why your writing, or "once upon a time" or anything at all to fill the page.
a story will come.  |
This sounds like an excellent exercise for anybody. ANybody else wanna take up the challenge? I can issue it formally in the Challenges section, too, y'know, 'cause I have Teh Power that way.  |
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eiranae Quiz Admin

Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 0 Location: Just to the left of barmy.
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Viv wrote: |
This sounds like an excellent exercise for anybody. ANybody else wanna take up the challenge? I can issue it formally in the Challenges section, too, y'know, 'cause I have Teh Power that way.  |
Oh, please do that! That way I don't have to be the only one suffering, I mean writing!
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eiranae Quiz Admin

Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 0 Location: Just to the left of barmy.
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| NeumeIndil wrote: | Hey, now some of us write in a flat b/c that's where we live. There isn't much choice in the matter.  |
I can't believe I missed that! Too funny. |
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Sulriel

Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 286 Location: Imladris (or maybe Texas ...)
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Viv wrote: | | Sulriel wrote: | just sit and write, anything everything. don't think about it, just write.
start out with explaining to yourself why your writing, or "once upon a time" or anything at all to fill the page.
a story will come.  |
This sounds like an excellent exercise for anybody. ANybody else wanna take up the challenge? I can issue it formally in the Challenges section, too, y'know, 'cause I have Teh Power that way.  |
Viv, I'm not sure it would be a good challenge 'as is', because the output isn't publishable if it's done right. I have some ideas though, I'll PM you. _________________ "May it be a light to you in dark places." |
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NancyBrooke Challenge Admin
Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 160 Location: In a motel 6 by the airport
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Viv wrote: | Am giggling with mental images of NB capering about the room.
"Uh, what's got you so exited, anyway? Hear about a new Firefly movie? Stick it to that guy on e-bay who keeps outbidding you? Hear about Godivas half-off at the local chocolaterie?"
"Noooo! I used precipitate as a noun *and* verb, and I dunna think it means what you think it means!"
"Right." |
Pretty much!
| Viv wrote: | | Central themes are always a mark of a good writer. |
| Sulriel wrote: | I have seen it argued, and I know there are exceptions, but I think it's a good, basic rule of thumb that a story should be about something.
vengeance debilities the vengeful
love survives where lust fails
letting go / finding new meaning
taking 'hold and making it work
surviving loss
finding strength in compromise |
Hmmmm you know, I was actually thinking of something smaller that this - it wasn't just metaphor when I wrote "nut" and "kernal" above. My work, at any rate, I think, is about small moments, or very finite ideas/questions, not grand over-arching concepts. For example, the thing I'm working on right now (pre-SSP ) isn't about parenting so much as about a moment of parenting choice. And I don't think that whatever central core you have has to be profound, either, it just has to be there. _________________ NB Duchess of WHY TF Cant'chu Punctuate, First Duchess of F*&(ing &*ll yur comma placement sux!
Nazgul #3 in charge of ducking & sniggering
Garo golf a conu ned i eneth aran an ir ho delitha ad |
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NeumeIndil

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 1084 Location: St. Louis, Missouri, USA
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Tossing an idea out there, feel free to fling it back at me. (I've gotta have a helmet around here somewhere....)
I've always learned a lot from editing and doing beta for others too. So, what if we exchange whatever stories we put out from this "toss your usual M.O. on its ear" idea, and beta for each other as well? It'd be a bit more like an actual writing 'circle' like the Inklings were, but open to whomever decides to participate in the challenge. Then after a month or whatever, we number the stories, pick numbers and beta the one we get? _________________ An Infinite Source of Pervy Wisdom. |
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eiranae Quiz Admin

Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 0 Location: Just to the left of barmy.
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| NeumeIndil wrote: | Tossing an idea out there, feel free to fling it back at me. (I've gotta have a helmet around here somewhere....)
I've always learned a lot from editing and doing beta for others too. So, what if we exchange whatever stories we put out from this "toss your usual M.O. on its ear" idea, and beta for each other as well? It'd be a bit more like an actual writing 'circle' like the Inklings were, but open to whomever decides to participate in the challenge. Then after a month or whatever, we number the stories, pick numbers and beta the one we get? |
Sounds great to me. I'd like to try my hand at beta work. Just don't expect much help from me in the commas area. Commas and I have a misunderstanding.
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NeumeIndil

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 1084 Location: St. Louis, Missouri, USA
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Oh yeah, I've been meaning to send this: http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/commas.htm
Decent site for breaking down grammar, etc. in laymen's terms. _________________ An Infinite Source of Pervy Wisdom. |
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Sulriel

Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 286 Location: Imladris (or maybe Texas ...)
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| NeumeIndil wrote: | Tossing an idea out there, feel free to fling it back at me. (I've gotta have a helmet around here somewhere....)
I've always learned a lot from editing and doing beta for others too. So, what if we exchange whatever stories we put out from this "toss your usual M.O. on its ear" idea, and beta for each other as well? It'd be a bit more like an actual writing 'circle' like the Inklings were, but open to whomever decides to participate in the challenge. Then after a month or whatever, we number the stories, pick numbers and beta the one we get? |
I think a challenge group beta is a wonderful idea. I'm not so sure about writing each other stories.  _________________ "May it be a light to you in dark places." |
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eiranae Quiz Admin

Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 0 Location: Just to the left of barmy.
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| Sulriel wrote: | I think a challenge group beta is a wonderful idea. I'm not so sure about writing each other stories.  |
Are we writing each others stories? I though we were just writing our own stories using the method opposite of the one we're used to. So if we usually plan out our stories in advance we're going to just sit down and write with no plan, and if we usually don't plan then we're going to plan it all out in advance.
Am I confused?  |
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Viv Challenge Admin

Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Posts: 71 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| NeumeIndil wrote: | | . Then after a month or whatever, we number the stories, pick numbers and beta the one we get? |
Oooooh!
Yes, please. |
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Viv Challenge Admin

Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Posts: 71 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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So, here's how it would work (so far):
Folks would write outside their own box. Outline-makers would write free-form; organic writers would hold themselves to an outline or other structure. We would write for one month. At the deadline, everyone would send in stories, which would be numbered. Everyone who sent in a story would then get a number back: that is the story they'd beta for someone else.
At the end, we would all have betaed stories to turn in for a challenge.
Does that sound right? |
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eiranae Quiz Admin

Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 0 Location: Just to the left of barmy.
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Viv wrote: | So, here's how it would work (so far):
Folks would write outside their own box. Outline-makers would write free-form; organic writers would hold themselves to an outline or other structure. We would write for one month. At the deadline, everyone would send in stories, which would be numbered. Everyone who sent in a story would then get a number back: that is the story they'd beta for someone else.
At the end, we would all have betaed stories to turn in for a challenge.
Does that sound right? |
That's how I understand it. Sounds exciting! |
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