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 Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: So any idea when this will more or less take place? |
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So does anyone know more or less when this FF area will be up and running?
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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We can't give a definite at this stage except to say that Robbie has begun work on it and its a big job. OSA took a good two to three months of construction before it was ready and even then there were other issues to contend with. Add to the fact that the poor guy is pulling double duty as new dad...so it will take some time but hopefully not too long.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Add the fact that we've been away for the past seven weeks...
I'm sorry to say that nothing's been done toward the project in the last two months. But we'll get right on it, as soon as the little one isn't jetlagged anymore and lets us sleep at night.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject: The Harry Potter problem |
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Okay, HP has been suggested and seconded many times over and even got a few nays along the way too. That's great. I think we're all be going in the favour of the majority but that said, it brings up a little problem.
Paedophilia was brought up a few times and though it will be easy to refuse fics where Snape shacks up with Hermione, what about sex between minors? Do we allow it? They're all 17, right? So that's bound to come up... or even a flashback to when they were younger, or with what's his name younger sibblings.
Your thoughts.
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Sulriel
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: The Harry Potter problem |
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| dolarabee wrote: | Paedophilia was brought up a few times and though it will be easy to refuse fics where Snape shacks up with Hermione, what about sex between minors? Do we allow it? They're all 17, right? So that's bound to come up... or even a flashback to when they were younger, or with what's his name younger sibblings.
Your thoughts.
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I'm absolutely opposed to it and would like to see as strict a stand as possible.
I realize that there are huge grey areas - ... the age of consent in various countries - not to mention all the shades from 12yo kisses to 17yo intercourse.
and also that it's historically accurate; I'm thinking of the Rome series that was suggested.
I suspect you'll see this issue with Narnia too.
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dolarabee
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: The Harry Potter problem |
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| Sulriel wrote: | | I'm thinking of the Rome series that was suggested. I suspect you'll see this issue with Narnia too. |
Too true. Yep, I don't know how we're going to handle this one, to be honest. I mean HP het, it's got to be with the kids, they're the stars. Same goes for Narnia.
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Alassante
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: The Harry Potter problem |
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| dolarabee wrote: | | Sulriel wrote: | | I'm thinking of the Rome series that was suggested. I suspect you'll see this issue with Narnia too. |
Too true. Yep, I don't know how we're going to handle this one, to be honest. I mean HP het, it's got to be with the kids, they're the stars. Same goes for Narnia.
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Can't it be handled like the VV is except in reverse? Where the HP/Narnia section is seperated from the other fiction? Then make that section not NC17 at all and have different guidelines? OSA can be the one of the few site around that doesn't have Snape shacking up with Hermoine. 
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Sulriel
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: The Harry Potter problem |
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| Alassante wrote: | | dolarabee wrote: | | Sulriel wrote: | | I'm thinking of the Rome series that was suggested. I suspect you'll see this issue with Narnia too. |
Too true. Yep, I don't know how we're going to handle this one, to be honest. I mean HP het, it's got to be with the kids, they're the stars. Same goes for Narnia.
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Can't it be handled like the VV is except in reverse? Where the HP/Narnia section is seperated from the other fiction? Then make that section not NC17 at all and have different guidelines? OSA can be the one of the few site around that doesn't have Snape shacking up with Hermoine. |
It seems like that would work - I'm not sure I understand how divided the fandoms are going to be, but I think it would be reasonable for those that feature underage characters as the stars to be ratings restricted.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:20 am Post subject: |
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I've actually been wondering about the underage thing for a while. The separate section will probably work well, but the problem I see with character age-based rating restrictions is finding a median age where legalities and personal preference are least likely to conflict, and then keeping it under control without clogging the system. Unless someone moderates the "teenagers" section, it could get messy.
So, what about giving a specific age of consent at which intercourse (of any kind) may appear in a fic, and then adding a "character ages" box as part of the description/warnings to make it easier to self-police? That way if you know the age of consent in your area is 18 you can avoid the fics w/ younger pairings, just like the warnings for Non-con, etc. work now.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:20 am Post subject: |
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hmm, That brings us back to the issue of Rome, as well. Off the top of my head, Octavia was married the first time at 15, (although his name wasn't Glabius, grrr), Livia Drusilla's first marriage to her own cousin took place when she was 16 and Julia the Elder was 14 when Octavian married her off to her cousin Marcellus. Now, for some reason, none of this seems as creepy to me as Snape and Hermoine, afterall, it was just 'how things were'.
Now what do we do?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| ghettoelleth wrote: | hmm, That brings us back to the issue of Rome, as well. Off the top of my head, Octavia was married the first time at 15, (although his name wasn't Glabius, grrr), Livia Drusilla's first marriage to her own cousin took place when she was 16 and Julia the Elder was 14 when Octavian married her off to her cousin Marcellus. Now, for some reason, none of this seems as creepy to me as Snape and Hermoine, afterall, it was just 'how things were'.
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I think both legally and in terms of the "eww" factor, there's a bit more age leeway within historical contexts like that. In HP, for example, if underage characters are involved, they're a) technically violating modern statutes by doing whatever they're doing, and b) entirely made up, so it's our fault for putting them in such compromising positions. With something like Rome, even though it would be based more on the show than a history book, we're still working with ancient codes of conduct, and also can't very well deny the historical fact that so-an-so did in fact get married when she was a teenager, no matter how much it might skeeve us out nowadays.
Of course, that's just my (admittedly leftist pinko commie liberal) take on it; don't know if it's sufficient legal covering for our collective asses. 
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Lets draw a big fat line between pedophilia and teen-age sex. The first, I think we all agree, should not be represented at OSA; the second ... well that's a much greyer area.
Where the latter is concerned, I agree that the more information that can be provided the self-policing reader the better. An character age cut-off (16? 17?) might also work well for the admins.
Teen-age sex doesn't bother me in fic any more than regular sex does (i.e. it depends on who and how well it's written); one can even imagine various amusing plot bunnies such as how does one get condoms at Hogwarts, or trying to get the room of requirement to function as a trysting spot ...
The fandom of Narnia raises a creepier issue, to me, that of inter-species sex. All against say "yucchh". (Yuccchhh.)
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | | The fandom of Narnia raises a creepier issue, to me, that of inter-species sex. All against say "yucchh". (Yuccchhh.) |
Yes but technically isn't sex between elves, humans, dwarves, and hobbits interspecies as well? Its not eww to me but yea I don't wanna read about weird interspecies (ents and elfs for example lol) whether they are legal age, hetro couple or not. But then again - I always have the option of not reading if someone posts it.
I agree - the age thing is pretty sticky. I see the points about Rome because hey - thats the way it was so what can you do? Perhaps have a 'canon clause'? Meaning if they ACTUALLY recorded it happening or it happened in the show/book/etc, then it can be done but other than that - no go. But then you're going to have people that will argue that in BTVS (if we have this fandom) Willow/Tara were lesbians so we should be able to write slash about them.
 This is getting even more convoluted.
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| Alassante wrote: | | NancyBrooke wrote: | | The fandom of Narnia raises a creepier issue, to me, that of inter-species sex. All against say "yucchh". (Yuccchhh.) |
Yes but technically isn't sex between elves, humans, dwarves, and hobbits interspecies as well? |
Definately see your point - I think it's an animal factor: so many of the non-humans in Narnia are part animal ... and the less said about that the better.
| Alassante wrote: | | Perhaps have a 'canon clause'? Meaning if they ACTUALLY recorded it happening or it happened in the show/book/etc, then it can be done but other than that - no go. |
I think this is an excellent idea.
| Alassante wrote: | | But then you're going to have people that will argue that in BTVS (if we have this fandom) Willow/Tara were lesbians so we should be able to write slash about them. |
I don't think it's written here that lesbians and gay men cannot be characters, only that acting out their sexual preference can't be part of the story.
There's plenty of A/U Buffy fic in which Willow and/or Tara is/are hetero ... written some of that myself (and am looking forward to posting  ).
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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I think using 18 as an age limit would be the best bet to avoid any trouble. For example, on the AFF archive they do allow the rather naughty stuff with Snape and Hermoine but when it comes to the real people like Radcliff who plays Harry... they draw the line at no under age sex (below 1 since it is about that particular real person and the site is based in the US so they go by US standards. I think it would be best for OSA to follow the age 18 rule for the under age characters as AFF does for the actors. It is possibly the safest route to go while avoiding lawsuits and the like... just in case.
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