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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:42 am    Post subject: HELP!! Need help with a story... Reply with quote

Would it be proper to say someone looked like an angel in Tolkien's world? Did they have what they considered angels?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say avoid using the word angel because Tolkien's world wasn't based on a Christian pantheon with angels and what not. Certainly there were the Valar and Maiar, but they were beings of spirit that when they cloaked themselves in flesh, looked like humans. Perfect example is Gandalf - he was the Maia known as Olorin. Yet when he came to Middle Earth, he took the form of an old man. That is not to say that a Maia couldn't cloak themselves in an attractive form such as Sauron when he appeared to the Elves as Annatar. But the key thing is, no one knew at the time that either he or Gandalf were special beings.

If you are referring to a female especially one of Elven origin, you could compare her to Luthien Tinuviel. However I would say use that judiciously, because that is very high praise indeed.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sindohte wrote:
I would say avoid using the word angel because Tolkien's world wasn't based on a Christian pantheon with angels and what not. Certainly there were the Valar and Maiar, but they were beings of spirit that when they cloaked themselves in flesh, looked like humans. Perfect example is Gandalf - he was the Maia known as Olorin. Yet when he came to Middle Earth, he took the form of an old man. That is not to say that a Maia couldn't cloak themselves in an attractive form such as Sauron when he appeared to the Elves as Annatar. But the key thing is, no one knew at the time that either he or Gandalf were special beings.

If you are referring to a female especially one of Elven origin, you could compare her to Luthien Tinuviel. However I would say use that judiciously, because that is very high praise indeed.


Or compare her maybe to something natural, the way they compared Arwen to the Evening Star? So think of something naturally occuring that would impress the elves and compare her to that?

Just a suggestion. Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think everything has been said, but here's another suggestion anyway Laughing If she is human, compare her to an elf. The elves who saw the Two Trees radiated an inner light, like Glorfindel. So, instead of shining like an angel, she could shine like an elf? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay - it is Legolas. I am trying to describe how angelic he looks when he is sleeping...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed I guess I think of females when I think of "angelic." Umm ... Definately do not compare him to Luthien ROFL The fan-girls would have heart attacks. How about this, instead of saying he looks "angelic," describe what you think an angel looks like. I would say something like "the moonlight kissed his pale face, and I could imagine him as an elfling, curled up in his blankets, obivious to the dangers of the outside world." Showing is always better than telling, anyway. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay - they just made love. I don't think comparing him to a baby would be a good idea. ROFL
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Legolas slept peacefully, as if he were a star luminating the sky without a care of what goes on in the world below them."

Er...hmm...yeah, something like that maybe?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Legolas slept peacefully, posed immaculately even in this restful state. He seemed to her like some creature of myth and legend discovered in a dreamworld glade, unreal and ethereal, free from any worldly cares. She dared not move lest she disturb him, he seemed so perfect in that moment'.

Sorry if that's a bit saccharine, but it's off the top of my head. (And I am bored today... Cool )

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(And here I thought I was bored, Agent SW Cool Razz ) I liked that though, really nice.


Better than mine. Confused Crying or Very sad


Stupid cold medicine...

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alassante wrote:
Okay - they just made love. I don't think comparing him to a baby would be a good idea. ROFL


Don't mess with me.

Actually, I was thinking more from the perspective of his father. I'm working on a plot bunny about Thranduil right now Smile So, he's kind of stuck in my head. I had the strangest dream about dwarves and jewels last night .... Crazy

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanatheEverYoung wrote:
Alassante wrote:
Okay - they just made love. I don't think comparing him to a baby would be a good idea. ROFL


Don't mess with me.

Actually, I was thinking more from the perspective of his father. I'm working on a plot bunny about Thranduil right now Smile So, he's kind of stuck in my head. I had the strangest dream about dwarves and jewels last night .... Crazy


I had a dream last night that I was at the barriers at the premiere of Hugo Weaving's Jackie Chan film, and he wouldn't stop to give an autograph.

(Like you all wanted to know that Laughing)

I have it in my contract - at least one Off Topic! post per thread Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow DEC and SW, those were good. I had to steal part of yours SW as you will see as you no doubt will review the story!!

Life is too short.......hehe

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