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inglor
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 Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:24 am Post subject: Random Observation: Cirdan |
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The second most overlooked and unglorified Elf lord: Cirdan
Always seemed to be the voice of reason. Of all the Elf Lords in Beleriand you never think "Why did he do that" or "That was stupid" about Cirdan. He always pitched in when needed and was always the voice of reason. He never let his pride get in the way of doing what was right and he always, always seemed to be getting his house burned down and have to relocate, but you never hear him whining...
Later he even gave up a Great Ring, just gave it away, "Here, you need this more than me..."
More of a Good Guy than even Finrod (those of you who know me know how much of a step out that is)
I guess no one writes about him much b/c he is always doing the right thing...
Thoughts, Observations?
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Yeah, you're probably right... he lacks that necessary "yes-I-have-made-mistakes-I-am-human" (well, you know what I mean) factor that gives all these guys their depth and authors the opportunity to think up lots of angst and guilt-induced-self-mutilation. He just seems too perfect! 
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: Random Observation: Cirdan |
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| inglor wrote: | The second most overlooked and unglorified Elf lord: Cirdan
he even gave up a Great Ring, just gave it away, "Here, you need this more than me..." |
Yes! even to a third-age oriented gal like me that one stuck out as an extraordinary act of foresight and compassion. What led him to that decision?
ANOTHER BUNNY!! 
That's three today! Now if only I could get working on the story I've already started!!
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I started a Cirdan-centric story once but it kind of died and no one came to the funeral  Perhaps that was one of the factors that made it unpopular - that Cirdan doesn't have enough angst? 
I will admit though that in other stories I do tend to use him as the 'father figure', giving advice and being the only one in the midst of all the nonsense that knows what's going on and isn't getting caught up in the turmoil.
Saying that, there is a lot about Cirdan that isn't known, which leaves scope for stories. I mean, just because we don't know of any major mistakes or screw-ups in Cirdan's life, doesn't mean there are some minor ones we don't know about?
Or am I rambling again? 
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Ahem, you know Inglor, if you would READ my damn fic! And Finrod's coming with me to Feanorville. I'm gonna curl his hair.
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Holy feckin' rattlesnakes!?!?!?!?!? I just looked to the left. I'm gonna kill that p&8ck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| ghettoelleth wrote: | | Holy feckin' rattlesnakes!?!?!?!?!? I just looked to the left. I'm gonna kill that p&8ck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Just felt the urge to point out that I am still laughing, ghetto. That one is pretty bad, isn't it. 
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| ghettoelleth wrote: | | Ahem, you know Inglor, if you would READ my damn fic! And Finrod's coming with me to Feanorville. I'm gonna curl his hair. |
Ahem, Mrs Thang, if you would look at the date on that post you would see that it is 5 months old... Finrod fears no curling roller. AND I don't see your name on my latest Silfic either. *nyah* (or whatever poking your tongue out sounds like.)
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hehe, I know, I just came in here to show off mah new hooters. 
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While you're here Ell, you can thank Senor Frog here.
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sorry, I got to the poking tongue part and went cross eyed for a minute. As a matter of fact, I am reading it today. If it weren't for all the shiny distracting stuff around me, I'd have been done with it hours ago. Amarie is an idiot and Artanis is kinda crackin me up with her commando match making skills.
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cirdan has a beard.....
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Cirdan always chips in to help. He always seems to get there too late, but he helps mop up the mess.
Although he always choses to do the Right Thing, who knows what's going on inside his mind? There could be quite a bit of conflict roiling about in his mind.
He strikes me as the Old Man of the Sea figure in Tolkien's Middle-earth.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:02 pm Post subject: Bearded elves? |
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| Texasgirl wrote: | | cirdan has a beard..... |
Ditto, Texas, no elves with beards...
Altho' Mr. Parker looked lovely up on the flets as Haldir with that WONDERFUL, sexy 5 o'clock shadow! LOL!
--Eruanna, lover of clean-shaven men and elves
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beards are sexy, eruanna! and they make elvesies look more manly and less feminine, which is good.
but to go back to original topic, is there any background information on cirdan? like more than a sentence like "cirdan lord of mithlond...."
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