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Viv
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 Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:50 pm Post subject: LACE Trim Challenge |
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"LACE Trim"
LACE (Laws and Customs of the Eldar) tells us that elves are monogamous, that they only make whoopie with their spouses, that they aren't lustful ("they are seldom swayed by the desires of the body only"), that they become ghosts if they stay in Middle-earth too long.
Pick a factoid from LACE and write a story explaining how that factoid is not always necessarily so. Reasoning should draw from other parts of canon (yes, you can use Galadriel and Celeborn as an example of premarital lovers).
There is no word limit on the story, but the deadline is December 31, 2004.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Could I just ask – when you say reasoning should be drawn from canon, if there is an example that goes against your ‘factoid’, does your story have to feature those characters in that example, or can you use it to justify having the same thing happen elsewhere? For example, if you say that Galadriel and Celeborn were pre-marital lovers, does your story have to be a Galadriel/Celeborn one or could you use another couple and just use G/C’s story to support your reasoning?
Sorry if I’m being really thick, but I just want to check I’m thinking along the right lines.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:51 am Post subject: |
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And, just for my own edification, is LACE a written thing or a ... an ... understood thing? I'm a trilogy girl and largely ignorant of the other 'documentation.'
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Viv
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| Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| SpaceWeavil wrote: | Could I just ask – when you say reasoning should be drawn from canon, if there is an example that goes against your ‘factoid’, does your story have to feature those characters in that example, or can you use it to justify having the same thing happen elsewhere? For example, if you say that Galadriel and Celeborn were pre-marital lovers, does your story have to be a Galadriel/Celeborn one or could you use another couple and just use G/C’s story to support your reasoning?
Sorry if I’m being really thick, but I just want to check I’m thinking along the right lines.
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Your story doesn't have to feature the characters in the canon at all. For instance, if you wanted to tackle that issue of marrying twice, you could off Celeborn and have Galadriel hook up with Pippin, and you might want to include a brief reference to the Finwe/Miriel thing. (Even an author note would work.)
Mostly, I hoped people would point out how Tolkien violates his own "laws" all over the place.  |
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Viv
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| Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | | And, just for my own edification, is LACE a written thing or a ... an ... understood thing? I'm a trilogy girl and largely ignorant of the other 'documentation.' |
Yes, it's a written thing, in Morgoth's Ring. I know it's on Tinni's canonNoFanon yahoogroup, and I think it's posted elsewhere on the web, for research purposes. (Andreth, didn't you have a link to this thing?) |
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SpaceWeavil
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| Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Viv wrote: |
Your story doesn't have to feature the characters in the canon at all. For instance, if you wanted to tackle that issue of marrying twice, you could off Celeborn and have Galadriel hook up with Pippin, and you might want to include a brief reference to the Finwe/Miriel thing. (Even an author note would work.)
Mostly, I hoped people would point out how Tolkien violates his own "laws" all over the place. |
OK, thanks. That’s okay then, I’m not totally off-track, I don’t think.  I have my factoid and I have my story. That solves the ‘what shall I write now’ problem I’ve been having this morning.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: LACE Trim Challenge |
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| Viv wrote: | (yes, you can use Galadriel and Celeborn as an example of premarital lovers).
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You mean ... Galadriel and Teleporno  ...
sorry, I couldn't help myself !
It really is an interesting challenge ... I'm going to give it some thought ... who knows what may happen!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Viv wrote: |
Mostly, I hoped people would point out how Tolkien violates his own "laws" all over the place. |
Somehow, I very much doubt that the story I have in mind will turn out that way.
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Viv
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| Haleth wrote: | | Viv wrote: |
Mostly, I hoped people would point out how Tolkien violates his own "laws" all over the place. |
Somehow, I very much doubt that the story I have in mind will turn out that way. |
That's okay. The challenges are mostly intended as spurs for your muse (ride 'em cowboy). Use the challenge however it suits ya. |
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Can I ask another probably totally obvious and stupid question? Is it acceptable to post a challenge response as WIP or does it have to be uploaded all at once? If again I’m being dense and/or this has been answered elsewhere then I apologise. My excuse for today is that it’s my 25th birthday and so far it has been rotten, so my brain is fuzzy.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Feel free to post WIPs (once in a while a challenge will have a word limit or something, and those are the only challenges that are limited to one chapter... this challenge ain't).
And birthday??! Happy Birthday! (Sending over first-age elves to administer spankings. Sons of Feanor look far too anticipatory...)
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Happy Birthday Sapeceweavil!!
(having had too many birthdays ignored, just couldn't let this go!)
we don't have cake, but we've go dancing salad!!!    
hope this makes your B-day just a bit brigher!
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Aww, thanks guys. That did actually make me smile, which, after a day like today, is a major achievement 
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Happy Birthday to the WEAVIL!!!!!! 25???  How'd ya get so damn smart so fast?
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Thanks  (Don't know if my criminal law professor would agree on the last part though )
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