[PhantomsChristine]

So many questions, so little time...

Only kidding.

Anyway, I am looking at possibly writing a chaptered tale of Erestor, which could be a romance (not quite sure yet). I know that he is mentioned only a few times in the trilogy of the books, basically in the Council chapter and then when he goes to Minas Tirith after the War of the Ring.

Is he mentioned anywhere else in the books that I have passed over? Is he mentioned in the Silmarillion or Unfinished Tales? I glanced through the indexes of both of these, since it has been a very long time since I read them, and did not find a listing for him.

If he is just one of those Elves that we know so little about, then please let me know, because that makes my job slightly easier when creating a history for him, as I can create my own in relation to canon.

Also, are there any pet peeves about the portrayl of this character that I need to keep in mind?

PC

[inglor]

As far as I know the only mention of him is in LotR. He's like Gildor, we only get that one glimps of him.

Here are my assumptions of Erestor:

1. He's a Noldo, not sure why, he's dark headed and a noble of some kind, probably been with Elrond since the Second age.

2. Not sure if he is refugee of Nargothrond or Gondolin, I lean towards Gondolin b/c of Elrond's Grandparents, granted if he is a refugee, he is older than Elrond.

Like Gildor, Erestor is a great character to play with


Peeve about any Elf Lord: weakness or blubbering.

Inglor

[PhantomsChristine]

Thanks Inglor! Now to developing a good plot.

[PhantomsChristine]

Forgot to ask this... what do you think about Erestor being from Eregion? I think that Elrond led a force from Lindon to Eregion when Sauron revealed his true form to Elves there in the Second Age, and were defeated, but took the survivors with him and founded Imladris. My history of ME is a little shaky... but could that be possible? It would provide for a reason as to why Erestor got to Imladris...

Only exploring all possible outlets...

[SpaceWeavil]

[ghettoelleth]

Erestor pet peeve? Boy do I have one

ERESTOR IS NOT GLORFINDEL'S EMOTIONALLY FRAGILE GAY LOVER!!

I know that's really not an issue on this site. but you did ask

[inglor]

[SpaceWeavil]

If I remember rightly I had him younger. I think I had him born in Lindon, but I honestly can't remember, as I scrapped the particular story where that stuff came up.

All my stuff if pure conjecture and just my own personal take on canon. It's not based on anything in the texts.

[PhantomsChristine]

[Zhie]

I think Erestor is one of the most enjoyable of the characters of which practically nothing is known to work with because you really can't make any inference as to who he really was or where he came from and all of that.

Now, the one thing I did take from the books, and I've had people tell me I'm delving too far into things with this, is that Erestor, in my opinion, is a little sarcastic to Elrond at the council. Maybe it's just me, but if you think about it -- here's this elf, he's chief advisor to Elrond (Elrond! A guy who just has to rank among M-e's top ten smartest people of 3019!) and instead of being told 'Hey, there's a ring, it's bad, we have to get rid of it', he has to wait to find out about it until a council is called. That includes getting the opinions of hobbits. And men. And... dwarves...

Yeah, I would personally be a little upset. I mean, if I were Erestor, I'd be calling the Elven Advisors Union (Local 612) if I were him. So, now, he sits through this meeting, and barely says a thing. He offers the Bombadil solution, but he doesn't seem as if he's too dismayed when that gets knocked down- it's probably his way to later say to Elrond 'hey, I came up with an idea, I was doing my part'. He's pretty darned quiet for a chief advisor... and in my opinion, it's because he's brooding. So, from that, in my mind, I reasoned out something else.

He's not first age elf. Probably not a second age one, either. It seems that first age and pre-first age elves get moodier than the ones born later. (And this is where the emails come in that go 'he's got THREE lines, Zhie, stop over-analyzing it')

So, when I play with him, I like to have him as an elf who defected from Valinor and hopped around a bit, a moody Noldo who, in some small way, thinks he could run Imladris better than Elrond.

Now, from another perspective, since I've got like eight versions of Erestor that I've played with now, I like the idea of him being somehow connected to Lindon, and this has to do with the neat little thing with a lot of the elf names. Such as, there seems to be this pattern, when naming the first-born, to use the first part of the father's name in their name. Examples: Celeborn is Celebrian's father; Elrond is father to Elladan and Elrohir. So... why couldn't Erestor be the son of Ereinion (Gil-Galad).

There are just so many fun things one can do with Erestor. (Hee hee... yeah, you heard me...)

I don't have pet peeves... there's practically nothing to go on, so one essentially has to make everything up if they want to use him in anything. I am most happy to see him as the half-vala horse master of Rivendell, and ex-soldier of Gondolin and ex-lover of Galadriel, with detour to Mirkwood to play the part of administrator of schooling, but, that's just me, and I'm a little weird like that. ^_^