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Neniel



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:30 pm    Post subject: Elrond and Gil-Galad Reply with quote

Hello everyone!

I was working on a quite Silmarillion-based AU story, and I was thinking of putting in a little bit of Elrond and Gil-Galad bonding... Anyhow, the thing is, what do we know about the two of them? What was their relationship like? Was Gil-Galad Elrond's mentor and protector, a fatherly figure, or simply his superior? Did they do well or did they just put up with each other? (well, the latter is rather unlikely, but I'm open to ideas!)

So, tell me what you think!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's not a great deal actually spelled out in the texts. Elrond and Elros were adopted by Maglor towards the end of the First Age, then after the destruction of Beleriand, and after Maglor went off to wander the shores, Elrond remained in Lindon with Gil-galad.

Later when Sauron attacked Ost-in-Edhil in the 1600s of the Second Age, Gil-galad sent Elrond off to fight, but he could only rescue survivors, and not save the city, so he turned north and eventually took refuge in the valley where Rivendell was eventually founded. Later Gil-galad also came out to fight Sauron and, with help from Numenor, eventually defeated him.

Gil-galad then, according to Unfinished Tales, attended a council in Rivendell, and appointed Elrond as his co-ruler in Eriador. He would return to Lindon while Elrond stayed in Rivendell. At that point, Gil-galad also gave Vilya, the Ring of Air, to Elrond.

They fought again in the Last Alliance, when Gil-galad was killed in combat with Sauron.

That's the bare facts, and as you can see, nothing's properly stated about the relationship between the two. So really it's up to you. There's a great deal of fan-written stuff that has Gil-galad as everything from Elrond's foster father to his lover Shocked but what I like to do is just go back to the bare texts and go with my own reactions. Whatever works for you, I'm sure it'll be an interesting read.

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Neniel



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's a great deal of fan-written stuff that has Gil-galad as everything from Elrond's foster father to his lover Shocked

Bad mental image, bad, bad, bad! I think my mind got fried now...

No, I don't think I'll be heading anywhere near that!
(uuuugh, got the shivers!)
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Thanks a million for the rest of the info, though, SpaceWeavil! I know there's not much to start with, I was just curious to what other people thought of! (I am more for the protective fatherly figure myself, but hey, it's always refreshing to get a new outlook on things!)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, oh, oh, almost forgot....

Did Gil-Galad get to meet Elros?

Embarassed (yeah, I know, I should brush up on my Sil facts more often...)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, oh, oh, almost forgot....

Did Gil-Galad get to meet Elros?

Embarassed (yeah, I know, I should brush up on my Sil facts more often...)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again it's not actually said, but Elros didn't leave for Numenor until about the year 32 of the Second Age, whereas the survivors of Beleriand arrived in Middle earth and the elves set up the Grey Havens in the year 2, so it's feasible that Gil-galad and Elros met before Elros and the other Edain sailed to Numenor. (Certainly that's the theory I went with in my story)
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