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hope18
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 Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject: places question |
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Hello everyone,
Does anyone know where the exact place that Legolas brought elves from Eryn Lasgalen to live is?
And also when Legolas and Gimli visited Aragorn in the White City, where did they stay? Or Elrond, Gandalf and even the sons of Elrond?
I would appreciate it if anyone solved this mystery 
Thank you
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ellisk
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: places question |
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| hope18 wrote: | Hello everyone,
Does anyone know where the exact place that Legolas brought elves from Eryn Lasgalen to live is?
And also when Legolas and Gimli visited Aragorn in the White City, where did they stay? Or Elrond, Gandalf and even the sons of Elrond?
I would appreciate it if anyone solved this mystery
Thank you
Hope |
Off the top of my head, I'd say Legolas intended to bring the elves to Ithilien. Exactly where in Ithilien is not specified to my memory, though I have always assumed North Ithilien since he was in the Field of Cormallen when he suggested he might bring elves to Gondor. The Field of Cormallen is on the banks of the Anduin near Cair Andros in North Ithilien.
As to where Elessar's guests stayed, there are many possibilities. If they were friends but not family, maybe they stayed in the Old Guesthouse on the First Level on Lampwrights' Street.
If they were close friends or family, they probably stayed in the Citadel on the Seventh Level. That was where the court was. Here is a description of the Seventh Level from Thain's Book Encyclopedia:
| Quote: | Around the walls of the Citadel were seven towers and in the center was the Tower of Ecthelion, a white tower standing 300 feet tall. From the Tower Hall the Kings and later the Stewards ruled. The King's House was located behind the tower to the west. On the north side of the tower was the Great Hall of Feasts. In front of the tower to the east was the Court of the Fountain, paved with white stones. Beside the fountain in the courtyard stood the White Tree of Gondor.
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Those are my thoughts. Hope that helps.
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hope18
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| Thank you very much Ellisk that helped a lot. |
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hope18
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Hello again,
seems I have many questions about places. 
Though now it's about Aman, I read from the Encyclopedia of Arda that the Sindar and the Silvan (Teleri) when they traveled west they lived in Alqualonde, on the eastern shores of Aman.
The Noldor lived in Tirion bulit on the hill of Tuna and the Vanyar beneath Taniquetil.
Well Galadriel was Noldor so she went to live in Tirion. Celeborn was Sindar, so normally when he travelled west he would go live in Alqualonde. But he wouldn't just leave his wife. I'm confused.  Can we assume that it didn't matter where they lived after all?
Also Elrond was a bit of everything, where did he go to stay? I would guess he went to stay with the Noldor. But maybe I'm mistaken.
I've never read the Silmarillion. I guess it's time lol
Anyway I hope somenone can help me
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| hope18 wrote: | . Celeborn was Sindar, so normally when he travelled west he would go live in Alqualonde.
Hope |
1. Maybe I misunderstood your post but the trip West was one way.
2. The Galadriel/Celeborn ? is a little tougher. Galadriel was royalty of both the Teler and Noldor (possibly Vanyar too)so she could stay wherever she wanted but Celeborn was no lover of the sea so... I think though the returning Exiles (of which Galadriel was one) stayed on Tol Erresea (sp?)
3. Elrond, being a true mut (Man, Maia, Teler, Vanyar, Noldor), could have gone anywhere though you are correct, his ties were closer to the Noldor.
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hope18
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you Inglor, that helped a lot.
So we are free to assume that they all lived close since Elrond's wife is their daughter.
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My personal opinion is that Gal and Cel had 2 estates/residences. One in the Royal Palace and one in the woods somewhere. I think Gal. would have liked to stay in the city for a while but then would like to get away to the trees where as Cel would like to just stay in the trees. Here's my reasoning. In the 1st Age, Gal stayed in Doriath to learn from Melian, learning how to rule and whatever else Melian could teach her... and to be near Celeborn. She chose Melian and Celeborn over her brother Finrod (who it was stated she was very close to). She liked being in the thick of it so to speak. I get the impression that Celeborn took ruling as a duty and did not seek it out like his wife. Therefore, I believe (again, this is pure conjecture based on their stated actions and the impressions of those who have read more about the pair) Galadriel would have opted for the halls of power while Celeborn would have opted for a forest retreat.
Another option is that they set up their own realm, Galadriel being used to being a ruler, not a princess. Celeborn, also accustomed to being in charge, and liking the trees not the stone cities of the Noldor.
Elrond is a different story. I get the impression that he was like Celeborn and did not seek to rule but saw it as a duty. Celebrian was of royal blood in both the Teler and Noldor but I see her as a city girl and not a coastie so I would put them in Tirion with Elrond assuming his old role as advisor, helping Finarfin to deal with returning Exiles and arriving Morquendi.
Then again I could be way off, but I have based my opinions on what I have read from the Prof and fanfic authors who take great pains to try to keep their characters actions and characterizations in canon. (Marnie being the main one, though her writing is very Sindar centric) For impressions about Elrond, Spaceweavil is his PR manager.
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