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Ellbee
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 Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:55 pm Post subject: Movie question |
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I have recently seen pictures of Gil-Galad from the movie, apparently. Where are these coming from? Did I completely miss that part? Admittedly, I haven't watched all the bonus stuff on the FotR dvds, is he in there? Is it a flashback from RotK? Color me confused. Does anybody know?
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| He's there (briefly) in the opening sequence of the Last Alliance of Men and Elves in FoTR. |
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Ellbee
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Gosh, then I have missed it. I guess I'll have to watch it again, very sloooowly. Darn. 
Thanks for your help.
-Ell
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I don't remember seeing him but I believe Elrond was supposed to be his "herald," meaning he was holding his banner.
BTW, does anyone else find it sort of pointless for anyone to waste an arm holding a big flag? I saw a picture from ROTK with a bunch of Rohirrim holding flags/banners whatever. Unless you can use them to stab someone, it seems like a waste. 
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Elentari
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I have also always thought it was downright stupid. Specially when you're surrounded by enemies and needs to keep them off with a blade (pre-fireguns era).
Figure it had something to do with morale, like the army band stuff, but still... |
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Leila
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Having banners/flags does seem like a very dumb idea when going into battle. But they may have a purpose. Other than identifying who's who that is.
Stupid question. Who the heck is Gil-Galad I'll i've ever been able to figure out is that he's an Elf.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| Roisin wrote: | | BTW, does anyone else find it sort of pointless for anyone to waste an arm holding a big flag? - Roisin |
 Hmmmm ... well, imagine yourself in a field. You're surrounded by thousands of people, many of them are taller than you, they've got swords and half of them are trying to kill you.  How do you find your friends? Your unit? How do you get back among people who will help you?  You look for your banner and run like hell right for it!
Banners are vitally important as place keepers and identifiers in a world without radio and GPS. Go to visit a historic battlefield sometime and try to imagine how in a battle you would know where you are and what you're supposed to do. You'll quickly see how semaphore, banners, and bugles could be really important.
It probably takes a lot of strength and bravery to be a standard bearer, precisely because of the no sword-arm-thing.
Elrond's role from the book to the movie got a little squidged it seems to me. He is written as Gil-Galad's standard bearer, but in the movie appears more like a captain, ordering the fighting in places. Gil-Galad is glimpsed for barely a second - Don't Blink!!
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| Leila wrote: | | Stupid question. Who the heck is Gil-Galad I'll i've ever been able to figure out is that he's an Elf. |
There are no stupid questions.
To quote Tolkien, or Sam, depending on how you want to look at it:
"Gil-Galad was an Elven-king
Of him the harpers sadly sing:
The last whose realm was fair and free
Between the Mountains and the Sea"
Gil-Galad was the last High King of the Noldor (Elves) in Middle Earth. As per the Complete Guide to Middle Earth "When Sauron arose again after the Fall of Numenor and attacked Gondor, Gil-galad formed the Last Alliance of Men and Elves with Elendil, and with Elendil led the army that ... defeated Sauron ... [They] overthrew Sauron but were themselves slain." After that, I think, the Elves kind of divided into the realms of Elrond, Galadriel and Cirdan and many went back over the sea. Elendil, of course, was a man, High King of Gondor and Arnor, and father of Isildur who started all this nonsense with the Ring.
PS: That Legolas picture and your sig are wonking subsequent posts. |
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Ellbee
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Hurrah, I finally saw Gil-Galad. Actually, I'd seen him every time, but I'm such a doofus, I always thought it was Elrond. It's a shame they couldn't work his death in there.
-Ell
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Can someone tell me the exact moment Gil-galad is in I watched the movie (more or less) today, but didn't see him. Or at least not as far as I could tell.
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Leila
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Thnx!
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| Faulkner wrote: | | Okay if this doesn't work, i'll just shoot my computer into little bits |
OK, just for info when you've bought a new computer;). It's pretty pointless pointing a link to a site where you need to be a member of the Yahoo list for anyway. It's pretty impossible for the server to sign up to yahoo, log in and then sign up to the list in order to show the picture.
Let's just say your computer had it coming. 
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Faulkner
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Okay, so I'm extremely stupid. So sue me. It was the only place that I could find that had the pic on the internet. I have a copy of it on my computer, but I just don't know how to do that.
Yes, I am stupid and ignorant. Sue me again.
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