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Ottis413
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 Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject: Light house or watchtower for the Gray Havens?? |
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WARNING! another dumb quesiton coming up... 
I lost my copy of the Sim, (I think that's where I saw it) so I can't look it up..  but was there a light house or a watch tower at the entrance to the Gulf of Lune and the Gray Havens??? I think I remember reading that there were, and if so, what was its name??? (for a story I'm writing)
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I haven't really looked into this since I was researching 'Grey Havens' (one of my stories), but I recall that there was precious little detail about the layout of the place, other than the very vague hints given in RotK in the Grey Havens chapter. I certainly don't recall a tower. That doesn't mean that there isn't one and it's in something I'm not as familiar with, like HoME.
Also if there isn't one, that doesn't mean to say you can't invent one.
I've checked a few books near me and none of them make any mention, and like I said, I did scour for details when I wrote that story (my one attempt at a Gil galad romance...) but I couldn't find anything and ended up making it all up.
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Thanks, I couldn't find anything either, I was going to make the main character Cirdan but could find no info on him (did he fight in the war agnist Morgoth?, prob.) or the Gray Havens in general. ( Except it was founded at the begining of the secound age ) So, I'll just make something up and hope it doesn't sound dumb..... 
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| Ottis413 wrote: | | Thanks, I couldn't find anything either, I was going to make the main character Cirdan but could find no info on him (did he fight in the war agnist Morgoth?, prob.) or the Gray Havens in general. ( Except it was founded at the begining of the secound age ) So, I'll just make something up and hope it doesn't sound dumb..... |
Oh, with Cirdan there is plenty info. There is an essay on him in People of Middle earth, and part of it is somewhere on this forum. The title of the thread was Cirdan the shipwright I think, so do a search of this forum and you should find it. (I have a feeling it was me that asked the question back then too...  )
He's also mentioned many times in the Silm and is a fascinating character, but the essay in PoME is definitely a good source of info.
By the way, if anyone wants to read a Cirdan romance, my story 'Grey Havens' is now complete. </shameless self promotion>
But seriously, if you have a search for that thread, there was plenty of info in it.
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Thanks a mint!  and thanks to Andreth for posting that info.  That was what I need, but alass, he doesn't really fit the character I had written (I have rewriten another H P Lovecraft story to fit Middle Earth, this one was called "The White Ship", (how could I resist butchering that one???)) So, Sirdan might have had a son....... 
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When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse, Out of the corner of my eye
I turned to look but it was gone
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The child is grown, the dream is gone.
Pink Floyd, Comfortably numb
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Ottis413
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AhHa, I was just looking at the big Middle Earth map on my wall and realised where the tower was that I was thinking of, it was the (or was there more then one, I think so) white tower in the tower hills east of the Gray Havins, I think one of the seeing stones were there in the old days....I think.. 
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I turned to look but it was gone
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The child is grown, the dream is gone.
Pink Floyd, Comfortably numb
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| Ottis413 wrote: | | AhHa, I was just looking at the big Middle Earth map on my wall and realised where the tower was that I was thinking of, it was the (or was there more then one, I think so) white tower in the tower hills east of the Gray Havins, I think one of the seeing stones were there in the old days....I think.. |
Yeah the Tower of Elostirion (sp?). Actually I said to my friend that was the only tower I could think of near there. 
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