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Galadriel8891



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:46 pm    Post subject: Need names for two Rohirric horses Reply with quote

Since I'm no expert with any of Tolkien's languages, I was wondering if someone could help me. I need ideas for the names of two horses from Rohan. I'll give quick descriptions of each:

1 - A horse that is pale gray in color, very gentle and trustworthy (doesn't let anyone fall off) but very brave. He is also fairly agile and does not shy away from battle.

2 - A brown horse with a bit more of a temper - one of those who has that glint in his eye and is a little dfficult to control. Strong-willed, a swift runner, and brave. Bears a warrior into battle with his head held high.

I don't know if these descriptions help very much, but at least you can get an idea of what they're like. Hmm, that didn't make very much sense, did it? Haha...I tihnk I'll go take a break now...
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NeumeIndil



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possiblities directly from an Old English dictionary:

For the Grey:
grey = graeg
grey-haired = gamolfeax
grey coloured = graegmael
gentle = lide, mandwere
steadfast = unwaclic
stout hearted = stearcheort
true = waer
dignity = weordmynd

For the Chestnut:
trouble = earfothe, drefan, bysgian
tumult = woma, hlynn, sweg
strong = strang
strong in battle = wigcraeftig
difficulty = eorfethe, eorfothlic
active = unslaw
tricky = praettig
swift = hraed, swift, flugol
proud = modig, deall, fraet
pride = modigness

For both:
brave = caf, stidmod, heardhicgened
brave in battle = gudrof

These are the adjectives and phrases that struck me as I read your descriptions and then looked through my dictionary. I'm not familiar with constructing phrases in old english so there may be conventions for adding gender that I am not aware of. This at least might serve as a start. If you want definitions for other specific words or the link to the dictionaries I use, please feel free to contact me. Good luck!

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AngmarsElfhild



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am by no means an expert in the language, but I came up with these...

stedefæst - steadfast, steady, firm, constant, holding one’s ground, firmly fixed
græg - gray
héah - high, tall, lofty; high-class, exalted, sublime, illustrious, important; proud, haughty; deep; right (hand); cmp híerra, spl híehst; 2. adv high, aloft
heorte - heart

Perhaps Héahheorte (High Heart) and Stedefæst?

This is a very helpful dictionary for Old English words. Doesn't say much about phrasing things, however.

http://home.comcast.net/~modean52/oeme_dictionaries.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Argh.. just typed a long reply: my mouse decided to shut down the window.

Anyway, here is my take on it. Why come up with Old English names if Tolkien named Théoden's horse Snowmane, Éomer's horse is Firefoot and Éowyn's horse is named Windfolla.

I am a horseperson and I wonder why you should give your horse a long name. Make it a catchy one, that you can speak quick in the heat of battle (or when your horse just made you bite the dust... again). You don't want to spend your breath on calling a long name which will undoubtly be a signal for your enemy that you're still standing. It would be a real downer if you had a sword in your back before you finished speaking the name of your horse Wink

First I want to point you this great site that will help you.

It's called Rohirrim Grey by Sulriel

http://www.theoriginalseries.com/rohirrimgrey.htm

This article will touch on the most basic elements of equine color genetics and provide photo examples to help you correctly describe the horses in your fic.

Then I am wondering if we're dealing with a mare, stallion or gelding. This has a huge influence on the horse character as well. Mare's aren't always gentle (see my story Abrecan)...

But if one of them is a mare: it has influence on the naming.

How about this name for a mare:
Féle means Faithful

For a stallion/gelding:
Argod meaning Good Grace
Eadwine meaning Blessed Friend

For the more temperamental one:

Mare:
Lyfides meaning Air Woman

Gelding:
Lyfgast meaning Air Spirit

Stallion:
Dreng meaning Youth
Cempa meaning Hero
ǽledher meaning Fire Hair

If you want to remain close to how Tolkien named the horses of his main Rohirrim canon characters. Firemane might be a nice option or any kind of combinations.

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