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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject: Nana, Gamaw, Grammy, Pop-pop, Grandaddy, whoosit-called Reply with quote

Not trying to blow my own horn here (for once); I'm looking for a general concensus: anyone got an idea about what the Sindarin words for grandparents would be?

In this archive I've seen two different solutions:

Daerada from daer (great) + ada (father) for Paternal Grandfather
Daerion from daer (great) + ion (son of)
from (I'm sorry!) I forget where but I was told by the author she had seen it elsewhere;

and from MeldelwenIlce in her wonderful story "Child of Aule":
Daeradar from daer (great) + adar (father) for Paternal Grandfather
and Daernaneth from daer (great) + naneth (mother) for Maternal Grandfather (as I remember)

For a fic I have put aside for now I experimented with a lot of combinations, but settled on:

Adadhron from ada (father) = odhron (male parent) to mean Paternal Grandfather
Adadhril from ada (father) = odhril (female parent) to mean Paternal Grandmother
Nanadhron from Nana (mother) + odhron (male parent) to mean Maternal Grandfather
and
Nanadhril from Nana (mother) + odhril (female parent) to mean Maternal Grandmother


So, what do you all think? Got any other ideas? I know I'm going to need it sooner or later.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daeradar/naneth are the names I use myself and have seen in the most fics. That's my two cents. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the differentiation of the maternal and paternal grandparents. so much more respectful than just lumpin them all into grandma and grandpa (plus no one fights over who gets to be called nanna)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did I miss this post?!

Great translations Nancy! I really like how you have distinguished between paternal and maternal grandparents.

The translation I've used for grandfather has been:

"Aradeg" from Arad (father) and beleg (great).

Now I see that there's another word for (great) that fits better the meaning (I recall I didn't check the dictionary ... it scares me to think I'm beginning to write Sindarin without checking notes Shocked . I'm a danger now!). So I probably should've gone with "Arader."

A little something I would like to note here, and if I'm being a snob, please let me know, you have my permission to kick my ass.

Since Sindarin takes adjectives after the noun, it would be better if "adar" is used first, followed by great "daer." I'm mentioning this because I've seen a few of these translations with adjective preceeding the noun.

And now I'll go hide Hiding behind the sofa

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No! No hiding ... especially since I solicited your involvement. I always appreciate your advice.

Thanks for keeping the rest of us amateurs on the up and up, as always!!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thuriniel wrote:
How did I miss this post?!

Great translations Nancy! I really like how you have distinguished between paternal and maternal grandparents.

The translation I've used for grandfather has been:

"Aradeg" from Arad (father) and beleg (great).

Now I see that there's another word for (great) that fits better the meaning (I recall I didn't check the dictionary ... it scares me to think I'm beginning to write Sindarin without checking notes Shocked . I'm a danger now!). So I probably should've gone with "Arader."

A little something I would like to note here, and if I'm being a snob, please let me know, you have my permission to kick my ass.

Since Sindarin takes adjectives after the noun, it would be better if "adar" is used first, followed by great "daer." I'm mentioning this because I've seen a few of these translations with adjective preceeding the noun.

And now I'll go hide Hiding behind the sofa


I was sent here by Nancy to check out some terms. With the "Arader", I am confused. "Arad" means daytime, according to DragonFlame. Now, if I am using an incorrect source, please let me know. It has contridicted several words I thought I knew.
That being said, would "Adadaer" work as grandfather?

On another note, I needed words for uncle, aunt and cousin. Any help there? Right now I am just using English until I find out different. Not very conducive. Any help is appreciated.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Nana, Gamaw, Grammy, Pop-pop, Grandaddy, whoosit-called Reply with quote

NancyBrooke wrote:
Adadhril from ada (father) = odhril (female parent) to mean Paternal Grandmother

Nanadhril from Nana (mother) + odhril (female parent) to mean Maternal Grandmother


Have the sindarin guru's decided that this is right? I need a word for grandmother but I wanted to make sure.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can live with those, as it makes sense. Dunno if that means anyting though Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think there's a 'right' or a 'wrong' here, Al, just an 'I like this one so I'm going to use it.'
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as no one screams at me for using 'grey elvish' Rolling Eyes I'm cool with these. Thanks you two!
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