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Ania



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:51 am    Post subject: The Dunédain? Reply with quote

I don't know if anyone else has a fascination with this people but I'm currently exploring a fic with the Dunédain during the years of 'silence' surrounding this people and mixing in some exchanges with the Rohirrim and elves, does anyone have any experience writing this kind of thing?

I've been doing research etc, but it's really vague in ROTK and hardly mentioned in the Silm and UT, was just curious, am I alone in my interest?

Or anyone who had written with this people, can I be creative and put some thought into their leaders, way of life, etc? No mention of a hidden settlement in histories so I'm basing them at Rivendell.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "Book of Lost Tales" has a lot of info regarding the Dunédain. (If I'm not getting my books mixed up) I would try there first. Alas, my specialities are elves and the Ainur, I know next to nothing on the races of men. Crying or Very sad
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Ania



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I'll have a look and see if I actually have one! Smile
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GypsieRose



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: The Dunédain? Reply with quote

Ania wrote:
I don't know if anyone else has a fascination with this people but I'm currently exploring a fic with the Dunédain during the years of 'silence' surrounding this people and mixing in some exchanges with the Rohirrim and elves, does anyone have any experience writing this kind of thing?

Are you talking about the northern Dúnedain specifically? I know a fair amount about Dúnedain, but more about Gondor than Arnor.

--Rose


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Ania



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the Northern, specifically along the lines of Isildur and Aragorn's line, the 'Rangers' .
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GypsieRose



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ania wrote:
Yeah, the Northern, specifically along the lines of Isildur and Aragorn's line, the 'Rangers' .

That's the Rangers of the North, not the Rangers of Ithilien, right?

I'm teasing just a little bit, but also trying to make a point: people sometimes forget or ignore the fact that Gondor has Dúnedain, even fairly pure-blooded ones, and Rangers. You can deduce some things about how the Northern Dúnedain live by looking at Gondor. For instance, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Dúnedain of Arnor observe the Standing Silence, since it is a tradition that looks back to Númenor. I would bet they also still can speak Sindarin; their school system is probably less well-organized than Gondor's, but they have more contact with actual Elves.

Anyway, to answer your original question, no, you're not alone Smile I would think the Appendix to ROTK would be a good place to start, if you haven't picked it over already. For example, I think they do have settlements, since it's a special thing for the Heirs of Isildur to be fostered at Rivendell. Also, Gilraen leaves Rivendell to return to her people, so obviously they are based somewhere else. I imagine Arnor is rich with old ruins from the royal days.

Have you checked Peoples of Middle-Earth? It has the drafts of the Appendices, sometimes with more detail on certain points.

--Rose


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Andreth



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Men in the Third Age are definitely not my strong point, but I do have a couple of websites/articles that might be helpful for you, if you haven't seen them.

http://gofree.indigo.ie/~warrenl/Tolkien/Tolkien.html

http://www.merp.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=76

Neither one is about the Rangers of the North specifically, but they're both good compilations of the info about the divisions of Arnor.

Here are three articles that are specifically about the Rangers and the Dunedain.

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/tolkien/64660

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/tolkien/30354

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/tolkien/73611

As far as where they lived, Tolkien said somewhere that the Dunedain of the North lived in southern Rhudaur or The Angle. The only ones who lived in Rivendell, to the best of my knowledge, were the heirs of Isildur. I think you can be creative about their culture to a certain extent. Hopefully these articles will be of some help to you. Sorry I didn't have more to tell you! Very Happy


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Ania



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Andreth, SO much those articles are relaly useful have really helped me putting the fic in context.
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