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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Seven Years Later... Reply with quote

I re-watched FoTR this afternoon. Some of it felt cheesy (wow, Lij overacted a bit! And Liv looked like she was speaking Sindarin with marbles in her mouth). But a few universal constants remain:

Ian *is* Gandalf.

I like a Lego who kills things more than he tra-la-lallies.

New Zealand was the perfect spot to recreate Middle-earth.

Galadriel creeps!

and...

Vigagorn still quacks my duck. Like whoa.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liv Tyler is hawt.

Boy, was I a fangirl for Legolas! Very Happy hahhaha... I was 15 then. *sigh*

I agree with you, Ian's version of Gandalf kicks out any other interpretation of the character by any other actor. The wise, a bit wonky Maia who roams the earth in the guise of the grandfatherly wizard.

I felt sorry for Eowyn, drove to despair and wanted nothing to lose herself-and her life in battle. Her face off with the Nazgul, when one looks at it, was probably something she'd reflect on as "Holy wargs! Was I crazy or what?"

I think Faramir's very cute.

I miss Gimli.

Frodo's too pretty to be single at his age.

I'd rewind and forward just to watch battle scenes, isn't that odd?

Love, Love, LOVE the soundtrack still...especially Requiem of a Dream.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its funny - I was thinking about the actors/actresses in this movie yesterday. I find it very sad that other than Viggo, Ian, Cate, and Elijah - most of the actors hit a peek and have lost it now. Even Orlando -what's he doing now? And Karl? Have I missed their recent roles? Miranda - nada lately that I've seen. Since Dom got killed on Lost - no sign of him. Billy was in one? major role after LOTR. Sean A really didn't seem to do anything for a long time. Sean B probably IS doing stuff - he's always been pretty active. What about Elrond?? (I totally forgot his name)

Ian is the one and only Gandalf. And Viggo is the only Aragorn.

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I like a Lego who kills things more than he tra-la-lallies.

Oh h*ll yeah

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Vigagorn still quacks my duck. Like whoa.

LMAO

I don't think Lij over-reacted but its hard to say since he was kinda posessed by the ring at different times in the movie. I'm not sure how a person should act when they're possessed by an evil ring.

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Love, Love, LOVE the soundtrack still...especially Requiem of a Dream.

That actually isn't from the LOTR soundtrack. Its from the movie Requiem for a Dream and it kept getting borrowed by movies afterwards.

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I felt sorry for Eowyn, drove to despair and wanted nothing to lose herself-and her life in battle.

She reminds me a bit too much about Padme/Queen Amidala from Star Wars. She was so darn kick *ss in some parts but in the end she ended up being way too whiny. (during the Houses of the Healing)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuthienTinuviel wrote:
Boy, was I a fangirl for Legolas! Very Happy hahhaha... I was 15 then. *sigh*


Oh my word, I have just realised that I was 15 as well...woow was it that long ago?

I was definitely in camp Aragorn...that moment where he first puts down his hood in the inn at Bree *shudders*. I think my brother was teasing me with "Aragorn Phwoar" for the majority of my 15th/16th years...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karl Urban has done a few movies lately... but his big one coming up is playing Doctor Leonard McCoy in the new Star Trek movie. If you notice, he's on the front page of OSA...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Love, Love, LOVE the soundtrack still...especially Requiem of a Dream.

That actually isn't from the LOTR soundtrack. Its from the movie Requiem for a Dream and it kept getting borrowed by movies afterwards.


Yeah, if it's the one I'm thinking of, it's Clint Mansell's "The Two Towers" (named as such for completely different reasons, I think). I actually associate it with Requiem for a Dream first, which makes the trailer for TTT a little less fun to watch... Rolling Eyes

But the rest of the movies.... yeah. I've been watching them while I've been sewing for ALEP. Still feels like a punch in the gut when Boromir dies.

trekqueen wrote:
Karl Urban has done a few movies lately... but his big one coming up is playing Doctor Leonard McCoy in the new Star Trek movie. If you notice, he's on the front page of OSA...


And that just makes me all kinds of happy.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Seven Years Later... Reply with quote

Viv wrote:
Ian *is* Gandalf.
I like a Lego who kills things more than he tra-la-lallies.
New Zealand was the perfect spot to recreate Middle-earth.
Galadriel creeps!
and...
Vigagorn still quacks my duck. Like whoa.

I need to do that, kick back and rewatch, but I'm sure I'll agree with the above when I do.

Aragorn... wow. And Boromir, couldn't have loved him more for his shades of grey and ultimate frailty. Legolas was nice eye candy (could never really salivate for him since he's younger than my younger brother! LOL), and when Eomer finally showed up, well, what's a girl to do in front of a horselord? Always been and still amazed at how they managed to find a Faramir looking so alike Boromir (never mind the switch to blond hair). And apparently those two actors never met until it was time to do pick-up shots for the last movie. Yet, they managed to convey an amazing range of emotions for one another, as siblings would. And Haldir, more eye candy there. I was never much of an elf fan but he rocked my little socks off.

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I find it very sad that other than Viggo, Ian, Cate, and Elijah - most of the actors hit a peek and have lost it now. Even Orlando -what's he doing now? And Karl? Have I missed their recent roles? Miranda - nada lately that I've seen. Since Dom got killed on Lost - no sign of him. Billy was in one? major role after LOTR. Sean A really didn't seem to do anything for a long time. Sean B probably IS doing stuff - he's always been pretty active. What about Elrond?? (I totally forgot his name)

LOL That would be Hugo Weaving. I saw him in a play last year. And after the Fellowship he did do the three Matrix movies, Peaches and Little Fish (two Aussie productions so maybe they didn't rate high overseas), and more recently he was in Happy Feet and V for Vendetta. That's what I get from the top of my head. Chances are there's more. Cool

Miranda is currently on an American TV series, isn't she? Starter Wife or Cashmere Mafia or both? Can't remember. I don't watch either.

Karl... well, besides the big role as Bones in the much hyped upcoming Star Trek movie, he's done Chronicles of Riddick, Bourne Supremacy, Doom, Out of the Blue (a Kiwi film you might not have heard about), Pathfinder (much hopping around in a loin cloth! Yum! Very Happy) and Comanche Moon, a TV mini-series I'm currently watching.

Sean B, do I really need get into his projects? Going to IMDb would be quicker! LOL I'm counting sixteen productions that I've actually watched since FotR...

Orlando hasn't done anything since the last Pirates, I think. I mean, nothing that's been released yet anyway.

Sean A, I don't follow but looking at his wrap sheet on IMDb, he seems to have mostly guest-starred on TV shows. Jeremiah, Into the West, 24, My Name is Earl, Law & Order, etc. I guess his career didn't take off as well as others, but then maybe that's what he prefers.

I believe Dominic is in the next X-Men, isn't he? And Billy, I have no idea. It's true he hasn't been in the spotlight much. IMDb lists a couple of productions a year, but nothing I'm familiar with.

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That actually isn't from the LOTR soundtrack. Its from the movie Requiem for a Dream

It is but I think they used it brilliantly for the TTT trailer. I have goosebumps just thinking about it.

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She reminds me a bit too much about Padme/Queen Amidala from Star Wars. She was so darn kick *ss in some parts but in the end she ended up being way too whiny. (during the Houses of the Healing)

I agree that Padme turned out way too weak, but I never saw Eowyn like that. She was in the grip of despair and maybe I remember the book more than the movie but, yeah, I never saw her as weak. Maybe... tired? Depressed? After all, she'd just faced Pez. Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hugo! Oh yeah thats it! lol Was the Matrix after LOTR? The Matrix movies were about the same time according to IMBD. He's done alot of voices for movies since V.

Karl - he's one of the ones I thought would be huge. But he did Chronicles, then got two starring roles in Doom and Pathfinder - then he's been quiet for awhile. Its good to know he's got Star Trek coming up.

Miranda Otto was in The Starter Wife but I didn't know she was also in Cashmere Mafia (but she is) too. Liv took a long break after her child bt it seems that 2008 has been her year. I was excited to see that not only does Dom have another movie in the works but its another Xmen! Woo!

One thing thats weird for me is seeing the movies on cable. I watched the extended edition so many times, I watch the TV version and think 'where is such-and-such a scene???'

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alassante wrote:
Hugo! Oh yeah thats it! lol Was the Matrix after LOTR? The Matrix movies were about the same time according to IMBD.


I know the first Matrix movie was before FOTR. I saw it in the theater with my dad, and when Elrond came on the screen, he said "It's Agent Smith!" And I, having seen 'The Matrix' only once, said "huh?" and he said "Put sunglasses on him!" and I looked again and said "Oooooh!" Cool

I was impressed with the Boromir/Faramir continuity as well. (Also, I think Dave Mustaine could easily be a third brother, if there was one.) I really enjoyed the scene in the bonus footage where David Wenham pointed out that the resemblance was due in part to their both having similar large noses - partially because of the way he turned to the side so adorably when he said it, and partially because mine's about the same. Rolling Eyes

Also, I was thinking while watching the first disk of ROTK today that they absolutely could not have found anyone better to play Gimli. I know a lot of people had problems with how the character became more comic relief in the movies than he was in the books, but I think John Rhys Davies balanced it so well with the more serious aspects that it still came off as very dignified, and I think mixing it with some humor is an improvement given the cinematic context (much in the same way I enjoy the movie version of Legolas... oh, how did Viv put it? "I like a Lego who kills things more than he tra-la-lallies.") Humor is as much a part of life as angst, and it pops up in stressful situations too (who hasn't had nervous laughter?), so it's not necessarily detrimental to the story to have it in there.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of people hated that Arwen's role was beefed up as well as the issue about GImli being funny. But they need to remember - they had to pull in fans that *weren't* already LOTR fanatics. PJ had to make marketable movies and he did. He managed to do it quite well so there were non-fantasy/sci fi geeks that were totally into those movies for many reasons other than a love for Tolkien. Of course I think Glorfindel should have been in the movies and Haldir shouldn't have been at Helm's Deep BUT prior to reading the books after the movies, I loved Arwen being a romantic heroine and Haldir and the elves being at Helm's Deep. Gimli was awesome in the movie and the relationship between him and Legolas was great. Another thing a LOTR book fan complained about to me was the relationship between Eomer and Aragorn should have been stronger rather than Aragorn with Legolas and Gimli. Personally I liked the movie version of the three travelers being so close. I guess to me - I loved the movies as much as the books and never felt robbed by what was missing from the movies (other than Glorfindel only cause he would have been HOT!)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karl was in that one tv movie that was on cbs this year...>____>
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alassante wrote:
A lot of people hated that Arwen's role was beefed up as well as the issue about GImli being funny. But they need to remember - they had to pull in fans that *weren't* already LOTR fanatics. PJ had to make marketable movies and he did. He managed to do it quite well so there were non-fantasy/sci fi geeks that were totally into those movies for many reasons other than a love for Tolkien. Of course I think Glorfindel should have been in the movies and Haldir shouldn't have been at Helm's Deep BUT prior to reading the books after the movies, I loved Arwen being a romantic heroine and Haldir and the elves being at Helm's Deep. Gimli was awesome in the movie and the relationship between him and Legolas was great. Another thing a LOTR book fan complained about to me was the relationship between Eomer and Aragorn should have been stronger rather than Aragorn with Legolas and Gimli. Personally I liked the movie version of the three travelers being so close. I guess to me - I loved the movies as much as the books and never felt robbed by what was missing from the movies (other than Glorfindel only cause he would have been HOT!)


My thoughts exactly (although I still don't mind Haldir showing up). A lot of what happened between Arwen and Aragorn was only in the appendices of the books, and even that wasn't much, so of course they had to make their relationship more obvious and put her in the movies more. Without that, half of Aragorn's motivations wouldn't have made any sense, and this random chick would have just shown up at the end, and they would have had that big sloppy kiss, and a good chunk of the audience (myself included) would have been all like "Dude! It's good to be the king!" without really knowing what the interaction meant.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just glad they didn't go with the 'Arwen--Warrior Princess' idea that they started out with. Adding bits and pieces of the appendices worked so much better than that would have.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alassante wrote:
Of course I think Glorfindel should have been in the movies and Haldir shouldn't have been at Helm's Deep

Agreed - it would have been great to see Glorfindel!
But although I'm definitely a 'book-LOTR' fan,
I got goose bumps when I watched the Elven company march into the Deep. That scene and the charge of the Rohirrim (which looks to be very book-verse) are the most moving in the trilogy, IMO.

As to the acting, I must admit I wasn't impressed with either of the hobbits, but I thought perhaps Billy was not quite as bad as the three others ...

Wink *runs and takes cover*
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lissaselves wrote:

Agreed - it would have been great to see Glorfindel!


Although not the Glorfindel they have on the cards that was supposed to play the part in the movie. Gawd he so didn't fit the Glorfindel image.

lissaselves wrote:

I got goose bumps when I watched the Elven company march into the Deep. That scene and the charge of the Rohirrim (which looks to be very book-verse) are the most moving in the trilogy, IMO.


Haldir's death still makes me cry. The way he looks at the other elves before he falls and Aragorn is trying to get to him. Bawl

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