[dolarabee]

Maybe I'm late on the uptake and missed it before, but I've just come across this... looks like Calcium Kid is finally getting released.

You can find two pix and a little tidbit of info about it here:

http://www.workingtitlefilms.com/

Beware, that site is a bitch to navigate. Look for 'Forthcoming'...



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[BittenBuggy]

Hmm.. I heard of that movie, but I never knew it was a comedy. It will be intresting to see him in a role like that. Of course, when is it NOT interesting to see him period?

[sindohte]

Indeed it will be a novel experience to see him in a present day movie. The movie Haven also looks like an interesting sort of movie for him. Yet I am looking forward to seeing him in Troy. There is just something about hottie men exposing their legs. And yes, yes, yes Roisin - I know that the story will have an unhappy ending, unless Hollywood does a major tweak job, but I still plan on enjoying my eye candy in the meanwhile.

[Varda]

Hmm, 'Troy' now there's a movie I want to see.

Anybody know if they're going for pseudo-historic accuracy, or are they going to stick more to the myths (Homer's Illiad, etc.). In other words will there be Gods, Goddesses, Divine interventions and other magical effects? And if such will be present, how much screen time will they receive or will they be purely mentioned in the script in the background but never shown?

May the light of Earendil illuminate the dew in thy hair with the coming of the morn.

[Thuriniel]

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[PoweroftheBook]

Hmmm...while there is a case to be made for Paris's actions being pansyish, he still was a hero in some terms.

After dear old King Priam was told by his daughter Cassandra that his newborn son would bring great death and destruction, he ordered the young babe exposed and left to die on a hillside.

Again, there is the sense that you 'can't fight fate', and a shepherd finds Paris and raises him as his own son. When he's finally found twenty years later, the family welcomes him back with open arms - except for Cassandra. After giving him a few pointers on diplomacy, they send him off to debate a very twitchy matter of trade routes with the Greeks, headed by King Menelaus, Helen's husband. Some think that Priam ordered Paris out to Greece as a sort of sacrificial lamb - the Greeks were probably going to kill the negotiator anyway - so why not send someone they had less attachment to?

Indeed, the negotiations collapsed, and Helen came to warn Paris that her husband's men were planning to kill him. He escaped with her, and this act was 'the straw that broke the camel's back' in terms of starting a war with the Greeks. Real smart move, there, Paris. Of course, true love is supposed to play a part in this, but I suppose it could be wagered that Paris was too new to his honors as a Prince to know the full import of his actions. Still...

So he runs back to Troy with Helen in tow, warning that the Greeks are really and truly PO'd now. "Oh, and this is Helen, Menelaus's wife. She's the reason that all the Greeks are after us, since all the Greek heroes swore to come to Menelaus's aid if Helen was ever kidnapped. Hope you don't mind if she stays with for the duration of the siege." I can bet that brother Hector and father Priam were less than thrilled.

The battle commences. After some time, when they begin to grow tired of the standstill battle, Menelaus challenges Paris to a one-on-one duel. Winner takes Helen, and the battles end. In the ensuing fight, it looks as if Paris will win, until Menelaus gets hold of Paris's helmet strap, and won't let go. Now the battle has turned, and though it looks as if Paris is done for, Aphrodite descends and makes the strap break. She then scoops up her golden boy onto a cloud, deposits him in his bed, and sends a reluctant Helen in to 'comfort' him.

Above and beyond the bad decisions that Paris seems to make, one must hearken back to the Golden Apple choice that started this all in the first place.

For those of you who might not have heard the tale, Discord offered a golden apple 'for the fairest of the goddesses'. Thinking themselves the fairest, Aphrodite, Athena, and Hera asked shepherd boy Paris to choose the fairest. Hera offered him great power if he chose her, Athena offered him great wisdom, should he judge her to be the fairest. Aphrodite promised him the love of the most beautiful woman alive (which happened to be Helen). He, of course, chose Aphrodite.

While perhaps not the smartest choice, this offers a glimpse into the inner workings of Paris, into the what he values. He does not care for power, nor for great wisdom. He didn't truly care about Troy, for that matter, being the son that his father tried to kill. Paris was out there fighting for love. If Aphrodite interfered, it wasn't really his fault, just Aphrodite's stubbornness to let her golden boy die.

And Thuriniel, I must agree. Only Paris or Legolas could have pulled off a shot like the one that is dealt to Achilles. Long live archers!

(gets off her soap box)

Regards,

The Power of the Book

[Maram68]

[quote="PoweroftheBook"]
Indeed, the negotiations collapsed, and Helen came to warn Paris that her husband's men were planning to kill him. He escaped with her, and this act was 'the straw that broke the camel's back' in terms of starting a war with the Greeks. Real smart move, there, Paris. Of course, true love is supposed to play a part in this, but I suppose it could be wagered that Paris was too new to his honors as a Prince to know the full import of his actions. Still...

So he runs back to Troy with Helen in tow, warning that the Greeks are really and truly PO'd now. "Oh, and this is Helen, Menelaus's wife. She's the reason that all the Greeks are after us, since all the Greek heroes swore to come to Menelaus's aid if Helen was ever kidnapped. Hope you don't mind if she stays with for the duration of the siege." I can bet that brother Hector and father Priam were less than thrilled.[quote]

I would like to add here, that the decision upon war on Troy was NOT taken by Menelaus but by greedy Agammenon, the older brother and commander of the greek forces. These forces he could only gather due to the pact that the all of Helen's suitors had made upon the final choice that she would wed Menelaus.

Troy was the richest city of that time (according to the tale) and an strategical point for commerce and warfare. THAT was Agammennon's main interest in war. He would have ditched Helen and his brother's honor in a heartbeat.

hmmm so far my bit of knowledge on the matter

[PoweroftheBook]

Yup, and then Agammenon sacrificed his daughter, Iphigenia, so that the Greeks could sail to Troy. Doesn't matter that Artemis snatched Iphigenia away at the last moment and made her an Amazon, her father was still motivated by greed to kill his daughter.

You can bet that no one shed tears when Agammenon's wife (Clytemnestra?) killed him in his bathtub.

On a side note, I have to wonder if the Amazons will make an appearance in 'Troy'. They fought with the Greeks, didn't they?

On yet another side note - there is a made-for-TV-movie called 'Helen of Troy' that came out last year. Although it screwed with the story to a large extent, it was still pretty good. John Rhys-Davies played King Priam...and now Orlando Bloom will play Paris. There's some sort of symmetry here...

Regards,

The Power of the Book

[Thuriniel]

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