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Viv
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 Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 8:45 pm Post subject: HASA? |
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I've noticed that several stories posted lately have been in response to HASA challenges. What is HASA?
I know, it's probably something that every fan ought to know and I'm just showing my ignorance.  |
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Ellbee
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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I believe that's the Henneth Annun something something site. Very high class, dahling. Actually, a reviewer mentioned them, so I joined their mailing list to check them out. Unfortunately, I joined just in time for a slap-happy catfight on the mailing list, and got the hell outta Dodge. And though I have found a few fics that are not quite up to snuff for such a high-fallutin' place, for the most part the stories are very high quality.
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Maram68
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:40 am Post subject: Henneth Annun is the LOTR fanfic writers Ivy League, right? |
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Or so I've been told ...
High quality is good right?
Huggles,
the not so high quality 
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dolarabee
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:55 am Post subject: |
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There's actually some very good fic there, but there is in other places as well.
What put me off when I checked the Henneth Annun Story Archive was how much some members took themselves seriously. I'm all for canon but there is such a thing as being too purist, I guess. I mean, if you want to take it all the way - as some people on that site do - then everything not written by Tolkien himself should be seen as AU. But no, they don't do that. They bend the rules when it suits them.
Now, don't get me wrong. To each is own. I'm very aware of that and respect that. That's why, based on my experience there, I choose not to go anymore.
Also, and that's just a little personal preference, I like being able to download a multi-part story in one go... not have to open all 35 chapters, one after the other, to cut and paste them into a file. HASA doesn't offer that option.
Anyway, don't mind me. And I really mean no disrespect to our members that are also part of HASA. Maybe I was just unlucky.
do.
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Viv
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| Ah. I suspected it might be a Henneth-Annun thing. Thanks for enlightening! |
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NancyBrooke
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| dolarabee wrote: | There's actually some very good fic there, but there is in other places as well.
What put me off when I checked the Henneth Annun Story Archive was how much some members took themselves seriously. I mean, if you want to take it all the way - as some people on that site do - then everything not written by Tolkien himself should be seen as AU. But no, they don't do that. They bend the rules when it suits them.
I really mean no disrespect to our members that are also part of HASA. Maybe I was just unlucky.
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Nope, not just unlucky if my experience is anything to go by (and I say it is!) Now, I do enjoy many of the stories posted to HASA and check it fairly regularly. They post challenges often and many of them are intriguing. One may join as a writer and/or a member, btw.
BUT -- Having started playing nice now let me add that I am still fairly ticked at HASA as a body since I had an inexplicably impossible time joining and all three of the fics I have archived here were rejected for inclusion there. I ended up giving up and removing myself from the companion (and silly) yahoo group in something of a snit.
Somewhat calmer now I can say it was just as well, as their interests are not really mine. They seem to have a preference for Elves, and somehow manage to take the broad spectrum of "Tolkien" work as canon - i.e. the Histories of Middle Earth, Silmarillion, Unfinished tales and Trilogy. The movie is most declasse! but permissable (as you know I'm a Trilogy/movies/Boromir Capricorn ESTP pollen/mold girl myself).
But what really cheesed me off was that I got no help along the way, either in trying to navigate the membership process or in reviews for my stories, most of which (when negative) were largely arbitrary, terse and unhelpful; utterly devoid of pointers or even common kindness -- My favorite being about "Gaming" -- "Elves don't have casual sex!" Now that's not a group I want to hang out with.
However, I e-mail occasionally with a HASA member who has nothing but good things to say about her own experience. Somewhat shy about her own prose writing she has found the forum membership extremely helpful and encouraging in reviewing her work prior to posting and has many stories archived on HASA. So, another country heard from.
Beyond the membership and rejection thing (if I *can* get beyond it) I figure since they go to all that work to archive "the best" I might as well take advantage of it and have a good read occassionally.
Nancy, climbing down from her soapbox |
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Viv
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | | I figure since they go to all that work to archive "the best" I might as well take advantage of it and have a good read occassionally. |
I'm not so sure it's "the best." One of my all-time favorite LoTRfics was not permitted within the hallowed bytes of Henneth. And the story of mine that they solicited is not what I consider my best piece of writing.
Quality storytelling may not be their overriding agenda. |
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JennnLee
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:22 pm Post subject: Yikes! |
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Elll, maybe we should stay away. God knows what they'd say about "Eternally."  |
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Scribe
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:55 pm Post subject: HASA |
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I don't like them much either. I think that they are elitist and after having many of my stories rejected, one of which was Easterling, I decided to post there only because they have a function that allows people to post without actually going through the review process. I also find that I intensely dislike the idea of them having controlling interest in the Mithril Awards. Not because I did not rate a nomination but because many of the fics that I have nominated are far superior than some of the things I've seen on the winners circle, didn't make the grade because they weren't the kinds of fics HASA would normally accept.
Plus their so damn fanatical about sticking to canon it infuriates me.
There, waiting a long time to say that.  |
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Viv
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They were involved in the Mithril Awards? That's disappointing to realize. I had been curious about some of the selections, and some of the more obvious omissions.
Oh well, I guess the fic world is just more political than I thought. Alas.
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Ellbee
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| Quote: | | Elll, maybe we should stay away. God knows what they'd say about "Eternally." |
God only knows. They'd probably tell us the story wasn't properly conceptualized for a Middle-Earth relationship, and perhaps we should explicate a more canonical juxtaposition of characters. Like, say, Legolas/Gimli. And elves don't have servants! Except when they do. 
And the kerfluffle on the mailing list I witnessed, right after the call to mass flame some poor 13-year old, was a nice bit of bitchiness about one of the members who was known to write *gasp* Hallmark cards, or somesuch. Sheesh.
Pomposity + fanfiction = silly. 
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Scribe
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 8:26 pm Post subject: HASA |
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| Yeah I remember that or an incident similar to it on their list, I was one of the few voices that spoke up against going on a witch hunt or as I thought of it - bitch hunt , from supposedly mature authors. Its one of the reasons, I was motivated to create this archive as well. |
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JennnLee
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 8:46 pm Post subject: Shows what I know.... |
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I thought they were the ones who did the Mithril Awards. Who does them, then? Or do I not care, since I didn't get nominated for one?  |
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Viv
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Wow. I had no idea. All I can say is... thank you for creating this place. It is very comfortable and encouraging.  |
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dolarabee
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: HASA |
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| Scribe wrote: | | I also find that I intensely dislike the idea of them having controlling interest in the Mithril Awards... I didn't make the grade because they weren't the kinds of fics HASA would normally accept. |
So why on earth are we affiliated with the Mithril Awards then? If I can help it, I'd rather not have this site linked to HASA, thank you very much.
do.
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