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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:47 am    Post subject: Is it just me? Reply with quote

I have recently been watching a lot of extra footage from the EE of the FotR and TTT. I have noticed little oddities about the actors, and I was wondering if anyone else felt the same?

-Orlando Bloom seems to be a few sandwiches short of a picnic. I mean, he's very sweet and all, but some of the things he says are like...dumb. I don't know, there is just a very native, almost innocent quality about him. It's like, wow buddy, did you live in a box?

-Elijah Wood doesn't strike me as being very 'nice.' Perhaps it's all the cursing and smoking (I don't like either) but he just rubs me the wrong way.

-John Rhys Davis loves to hear himself talk! My goodness, the man goes on forever.

-Liv Tyler has a crush on Orlando. She kept talking about how she couldn't drive in New Zealand so ORLANDO had to take her to and from work. I mean come on honey, we can see right through that excuse. But...knowing Orlando, he didn't quite pick up on that.

Please keep in mind that I love all the LotR characters and the actors. I just find these traits to be a bit quirky. Anyone else notice anything?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have to agree with you on Orlando Bloom, neither he or Elijah Wood seem to be able to talk properly either. But both OB and LT come across as very sweet.

I'm not actually sure OB can act, or at least he hasn't managed the movies he's in so far very well. He's just expected to prance around looking good. His Ned Kelly accent was very funny. Maybe if he's given a decent part in a film he'll do okay.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:37 am    Post subject: Gotta disagree Reply with quote

Elijah cracks me up. One of my favorite things on FOTR is listening to the parts of the commentary that have the hobbits talking about all the behind the scenes stuff they were up to, all the picking on each other and all, and I found it hysterical. Swearing and all that doesn't bother me. I grew up working in theatre, and that's where I met my husband - working in a regional theatre right out of college. And Elijah reminded me of a handful of actors I've worked with.

Watching one of the featurettes with Liv Tyler talking about Orlando and Orlando talking about Liv, my husband nodded sagely and said "Yep. He pegged her." So that's our take on that. Razz

Personally, I like Orlando Bloom. Not just because he's very pretty to look at. I was actually talking about this last night with my husband while we were watching Pirates for the millionth time. Yes, he's beautiful, but I almost think it's too bad that he's so beautiful, because then he gets all the squealy fangirl attention and not as much attention is paid to his acting. Reminds me of when Leonardo DiCaprio did Titanic, and all of a sudden he was the latest fangirl thing, when he was really a solid actor.

Yeah, Orlando seems goofy, at least in the FOTR extras, but he was young when he got that gig; wasn't it his first out of school? And contrast that real-life youth and goofiness with the grace he brought to Legolas. I thought he did a great job of appearing to be an old soul. And I thought he was great in Pirates, despite the shameful lack of nudity. The director said in a commentary that he kept giving Orlando the note of "No, you're still a dork. You're not cool yet." And that perfectly describes the way he played Will at the start of the movie, and then we got to watch Will kind of grow up and take charge and accept who he was. Become comfortable in his own skin.

Sorry to make this a long essay, but I found it funny since my husband and I were talking about this last night: about Orlando Bloom's subtle, earnest performance constrasted to Johnny Depp playing a cartoon character. So I had to weigh in...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Is it just me? Reply with quote

BittenBuggy wrote:
-Orlando Bloom seems to be a few sandwiches short of a picnic. I mean, he's very sweet and all, but some of the things he says are like...dumb. I don't know, there is just a very native, almost innocent quality about him. It's like, wow buddy, did you live in a box?


I like that sweet quality about OB. It says to me that he has not yet been corrupted by the Hollywood starmaking machine. I hope that he always hangs on to at least a part of it. And as for living in a box, I will have you know that he has more than adequate room to sit, stand, and eat in the box that he is living in my humble abode. Twisted Evil

BittenBuggy wrote:
-Elijah Wood doesn't strike me as being very 'nice.' Perhaps it's all the cursing and smoking (I don't like either) but he just rubs me the wrong way.


I actually like that prickly side to him, because it balances out his portrayal of Frodo, which had me gagging from the sacchrine at times. Not that I am a Frodo-hater, but a few scenes were just way over the top for me. Such as how he screamed "Gandalf!" and jumped in his arms when Gandalf showed up in Hobbiton. Sure I know he was happy to see his old friend and all, but still it was too much pink and fluffy cotton candy for me. Evil or Very Mad

BittenBuggy wrote:
-Liv Tyler has a crush on Orlando. She kept talking about how she couldn't drive in New Zealand so ORLANDO had to take her to and from work. I mean come on honey, we can see right through that excuse. But...knowing Orlando, he didn't quite pick up on that.


Well I can excuse OB for that major blind spot. Here he is a young guy with this gorgeous girl acting all helpless and asking for his assistance. What is the poor soul going to do? Tell her to get her own dang chauffer? Laughing I am sure he liked the attention and got to feel all manly by helping Liv. And it sure looks like a mutual crush thing imho.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And it sure looks like a mutual crush thing imho.


I've always thought that it was more obvious Orlando's crush on Liv than Liv's crush on Orlando ... but yes, I think it's mutual. Orlando calls Liv their "Princess" and you can almost hear a sigh in his voice when Liv first appears at FotR (this is from the cast commentary) and Orlando says: "that's quite an entrance" Rolling Eyes . Sean A. made then a comment like: "yeah, she was glowing when she got off the plane" which I thought was hilarious.

Anyways, I saw Liv and Orlando on TV during one of the many RotK interviews we were bombarded with. Instead of looking at the interviewer they were looking at each other, talking to each other, answering each other's questions with this lost look in their eyes ... I thought it was a bit odd, considering that one is married, and the other one (even though he thinks he's fooling all of us) in a steady relationship.

Mutual crush for sure!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: Is it just me? Reply with quote

BittenBuggy wrote:
-Elijah Wood doesn't strike me as being very 'nice.' Perhaps it's all the cursing and smoking (I don't like either) but he just rubs me the wrong way.


See, he annoys me for another reason. Now, don't get me wrong. Fantastic actor, and I'm sure he's a lovely person and all that, but that's just it. He's continually saying how wonderful everyone is!

I enjoy the commentaries, not least because John Noble actually mentions Finduilas and I go "squee!", because Bernard Hill is Far Too Cool and hey, mentions Yozzer Hughes (Forgive me, I was brought up on it but can't spell the name), and because Dominic Monagham cracks me up. But I have to fast-forward through the Serkis/Wood/Astin stuff. They're so... sycophantic! Rolling Eyes It shows through that Astin and Wood have a very close friendship, but it's all so lovey, and that narks me off. And poor old Andy Serkis, desperately trying to make a point but is continually slapped down...

Is it just me? But hey, ELijah still has a Brownie point by my books - he bites his nails. I'm sure that makes my continual nibbling acceptable! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: Is it just me? Reply with quote

BittenBuggy wrote:
Orlando Bloom seems to be a few sandwiches short of a picnic.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thuriniel wrote:
Anyways, I saw Liv and Orlando on TV during one of the many RotK interviews we were bombarded with. Instead of looking at the interviewer they were looking at each other, talking to each other, answering each other's questions with this lost look in their eyes ... I thought it was a bit odd, considering that one is married, and the other one (even though he thinks he's fooling all of us) in a steady relationship.

Mutual crush for sure!


It would not surprise me greatly if they happened to start dating at some point in the future. By that time OB should have matured a bit more and be decent second marriage material for the human incarnation of a certain Elven princess. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:12 pm    Post subject: uhmmmm Reply with quote

hmmm.. I have to admit to positively blushing with embarassment the one time I saw a recent interview (I think on Letterman or something) with Elijah Wood.... and I was alone in my living room! It was just so.... I don't know, I guess I expected to hear something interesting, even funny, but well intelligent? mature? I don't know, I just pretend I never saw it at all.... Embarassed

I did see Dom Monaghan on Late Late with somebody or other, and that was fun:) And I heard Sean Astin on a quick phone interview on the radio, which was neat. Ian McKellen real late one night, boy he looks different! But he had some fun/smart things to say. You can tell he has a sense of humor:)

I choose to reserve judgement on Orlando Bloom, but I agree with whoever said that his good looks might well be a bit of a handicap to getting his acting noticed. A pretty face will get your foot in the door, but it makes it hard to get respect as a thinking being (or so I hear!) Wink

Enough rambling, gotta go pretend to work!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: uhmmmm Reply with quote

SilverMoonLady wrote:
Ian McKellen real late one night, boy he looks different! But he had some fun/smart things to say. You can tell he has a sense of humor


Oh, Ian MacKellen is groovy. On Saturday night we was on Parkinson on channel one and a repeat of Have I Got News For You? on channel 2. He was brilliant on Parkinson, and hysterical on HIGNFY. Lots of strange references about gnomes on squirrels from the other team... and something about the Gandalf of Newcastle. "Wai ai man, you shall not pass!"

And no one else is getting these references, so I'll shut up now. Embarassed

(Don't suppose anyone else saw it?)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 1:40 pm    Post subject: Tee Hee Hee Reply with quote

I don't have cable, but if I did I'd get the references, really I would!! *grin*

Well, I'd pretend anyway Very Happy I'm awfully clueless when it comes to these things... Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elvenesse wrote:
I'm not actually sure OB can act, or at least he hasn't managed the movies he's in so far very well. He's just expected to prance around looking good. His Ned Kelly accent was very funny. Maybe if he's given a decent part in a film he'll do okay.


Okay, I'm sure I'm going to make everybody and their dog named Leggy hate me, but I'm not sure Orlando can act either. He did an excellent job in LotR, but I liken it to Keanu Reeves in the Matrix (more tomatoes thrown at me for that one, I'm sure) - the role worked for him. Was supposed to have this reserved air and be kind of the strong/silent type, so stilted acting works well for roles like that.

In Pirates of the Caribbean, Orlando Bloom actually detracted from the movie for me. Geoffrey Rush and some of the other excellent cast actors made up for it, but of course, what made the movie was Johnny Depp finally coming out and showing his full potential - instead of his acting skills helping to subtly further the performance of his castmates. Which is why he got an Oscar nod this time instead of one of his fellow actors (i.e. Leonardo Dicaprio, Bela Lugosi, Juliette Binoche). About time.

I don't think it's because Orlando's a bad actor, per se, I think it's just because he's young and inexperienced and his good looks are getting him thrown into roles he's not prepared for. But he can always follow the example of another actor with the pretty-boy-problem - Rob Lowe. All OB's gotta do is have drug/alcohol/partying problems, make a sex tape with a 14-15-year-old girl, have his career sent down the proverbial toilet, and then come back and make a television series about the American government (or in Orlando's case, the English parliment) and then everyone will give nods to what a good actor he is. Twisted Evil

Sean Astin is the one who totally surprised me in the movies. I've seen his other movies, but he really blew them all away with his portrayal of Sam. Very impressive. And I'm biased because I saw him in 50 First Dates this weekend. He was totally shameless and totally hilarious. Not to mention he really buffed up for his role as a steroid-pumping, Daddy's boy plagued by wet dreams and lisp. ROFL

Sorry - long post, but I haven't posted in a while so I had to get it all out of my system. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll agree that John Rhys Davies likes to talk alot, but what a wonderful voice he has.

As to Orlando and Liv fancying one another. Well maybe they did, but obviously not enough to get together. I must add however that I can understand Liv's reluctance to drive in NZ - you must remember that we drive on the left hand side and the hills in Wellington are really mountains. Add to that gale force winds on a regular basis and the occasional earthquake - I can understand why the dyslexic girl decided to give it a miss.

I was surprised to see Liv and Orlando sharing a car in Wellington for the world premiere. I had asssumed that Aragorn and Arwen would arrive together.

As to whether or not Orlando can act - time will tell. He worked for me in Pirates - although of course next to Depp and Rush, he looked pale in comparison - but then wasn't he supposed to be?

One thing that I spotted in TTT specials DVD was in the sequence - Cameras in Middle Earth. Jackson is talking about the 'bearded ladies' and there is a quick pan of a bearded lady standing next to a horse and trying hard not to be noticed. Well guess whose horse she was standing next to? Yup I figured - this was the bearded lady that Viggo fancied....
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

miriel361 wrote:


One thing that I spotted in TTT specials DVD was in the sequence - Cameras in Middle Earth. Jackson is talking about the 'bearded ladies' and there is a quick pan of a bearded lady standing next to a horse and trying hard not to be noticed. Well guess whose horse she was standing next to? Yup I figured - this was the bearded lady that Viggo fancied....


Yes! I loved that, it was so 'Viggo' for me. Just plain odd...

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what about "the injury that rocked the Western hemisphere"? by Dom ... Dom who "injured" himself while wearing his Hobbit feet with a pretty small thorn (according to the rest of the Hobbits) ... and then he makes this big deal about Orlando being a whiner because he broke a rib ... Rolling Eyes !

But I must add, that instance, plus the Viggo love affair with a bearded woman were my favorite of "Cameras in Middle Earth." Dom just knows how to tell a story and how to make it sound absolutely hilarious. He's just great Wink !

As for Liv and Orlando sharing a car during the New Zealand premiere ... yes, I also thought that it should've been Aragorn and Arwen arriving together ... but I guess they're both elves, so it's also logical ... unless, to put it in JennnLee's husband's words, "he pegged her."

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