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 Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:25 pm Post subject: Ran across something interesting in my reading.... |
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Apparently Tolkien didn't get along at all with C.S. Lewis's wife, Joy Davidman. Interesting.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Really? Where did you find that?
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That's very interesting. Is that in some Tolkien biography that you have neglected to tell me that you own?  You are supposed to tell me every Tolkien related purchase that you make. I suffer from Tolkien envy you know.
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C.S. Lewis was married? 
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I wonder which character he based on her then? 
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Shelob? 
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Roisin
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I got it from the book C.S. Lewis in the Shadowlands. It's mostly about his relationship with his wife. Oh, and if anyone has ever read A Grief Observed, his wife is "H."
She died of cancer.
Now you all have me  about Shelob being based on Joy....
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I always thought Lewis and Tolkien got along perfectly until I started reading Letters of Tolkien. There's some places where it sounds like they didn't always get along. Or at least didn't always see eye to eye.
In one place Tolkien says something about the Chronicles of Narnia being as far outside of his sympathy as Tolkien's work was outside of Lewis's. Tolkien also said that he found Letters to Malcom distressing and horrifying in parts, or something along those lines. I also remember Tolkien saying somewhere in there that Lewis was biased against Catholics and didn't like Hobbits, especially Merry and Pippin. And apparently Lewis borrowed some of Tolkien's names from his writings, and misspelled a few of them, which Tolkien didn't sound too happy about. I had no idea about any of that until I bought Letters about six or seven years ago.
Makes you wonder how much Professor Tolkien would have appreciated all his letters being published in a book, doesn't it? But sure is an interesting read. |
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I read Tolkien's biography for a school project. Tolkien was a devout Catholic... Apparently C.S. Lewis disagreed or something(think he became a Christian).. but they were damn good friends and formed the Inklings/Coalbiters (cant remember much already)
Btw, did you know that Tolkien was only allowed to marry Edith(Tolkien's wife) at age 21? And when the clock striked 12 on his birthday he immediately wrote a letter to her proposing marriage. Later, he found out that Edith was already betrothed to another guy he rushed back from Oxford and snatched her back, to say it crudely. Now, that's a guy with backbone
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I cant find Letters anywhere now, the area in the bookstore for Tolkien's works are heaped with stuff like LotR, Silm, HoME, etc. I can only find Letters in the library .. although I must say the book contents doesn't look very interesting... heh.
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I cant find Letters anywhere now, the area in the bookstore for Tolkien's works are heaped with stuff like LotR, Silm, HoME, etc. I can only find Letters in the library .. although I must say the book contents doesn't look very interesting... heh.
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| Roisin wrote: | | I got it from the book C.S. Lewis in the Shadowlands. It's mostly about his relationship with his wife. |
Remember that movie "Shadowlands" with Anthony Hopkins and Deborah Winger? About Lewis and his wife ... Not that I'm recommending a film as a reference work.
You know Treebeard was supposed to be modelled on Lewis ... apparently he had a most stentorious voice and could be heard coming for miles.
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| Moralanqua wrote: | | I wonder which character he based on her then? |
hehehe How 'bout Lobiela? Actually that would be realistic...
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| Culaelin wrote: | | Btw, did you know that Tolkien was only allowed to marry Edith(Tolkien's wife) at age 21? And when the clock striked 12 on his birthday he immediately wrote a letter to her proposing marriage. Later, he found out that Edith was already betrothed to another guy he rushed back from Oxford and snatched her back, to say it crudely. Now, that's a guy with backbone |
That's so sweet! Always the romantic was Tolkien. I still find it... lovely that they had Beren and Luthien on thier gravestones. One day I'll be that lucky! Fingers crossed.
(The 21 thing is a really crappy Victorian-esque thing of English and Welsh law. Or it was, way back when.)
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