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Moralanqua
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 Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:05 pm Post subject: Nerdanel Thread |
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So, what do we know about this lady elf?
Was she a demure, timid Daddys girl who fell in love with a ginge elf against her own better judgement? Did she end up having 7 kids because Feanor broke her bedroom lock 6 times?
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Was she cracked up on Valorian Valium most days, met and humped the local ginge jeweller, Daddy found out and married them off for scandal reducing sakes. They copulate like rabbits and she spawns him 7 brats before she finally realised what the runes for Birth Control read like... They upped and left, she sighed and started eyeballing Tulkas in his leather skirt?
Who was Nerdanel in your mind?
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Hehe. You know, if you had written the Silm, I'd probably be able to choke it down. I'm still trying to slog my way through the second chapter.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Nerdanel Thread |
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| Moralanqua wrote: | So, what do we know about this lady elf?
Was she a demure, timid Daddys girl who fell in love with a ginge elf against her own better judgement? Did she end up having 7 kids because Feanor broke her bedroom lock 6 times?
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Was she cracked up on Valorian Valium most days, met and humped the local ginge jeweller, Daddy found out and married them off for scandal reducing sakes. They copulate like rabbits and she spawns him 7 brats before she finally realised what the runes for Birth Control read like... They upped and left, she sighed and started eyeballing Tulkas in his leather skirt?
Who was Nerdanel in your mind? |
Haha! This is exactly the fic I am working on currently. (So everybody feel free to pitch in and give ideas) I've been doing lots of research on it, but there isn't really a lot about 'her.'
First of all, FEANOR DID NOT HAVE RED HAIR. He had black hair you nitwit. Mahtan had red hair, which Nerdanel inherited. (Reddish-brown) which she passed on to Meadhros, Amrod and Amras.
Second, she was strong willed, supposedly wise 'Nerdanel the Wise' duh. She did not go with Feanor when he was banished to Formenos (sp?) and instead remained behind with Indis. She also never followed Feanor to Middle Earth.
She named one of her twins 'Fated' and I cant recall the exact name off the top of my head, but it was a prophecy of sorts (one of those elvish-mother things) and so one of her sons was burned up on the ships at Losgar.
Uh... I can't recall anything else, anyone? anyone?
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Moralanqua
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 Im just fascinated with her now! She had 7 kids! Thats alot of elfluvvin! What kind of lady does that? I think she was a big ole tramp! 
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Oh ok, more stuff that I remembered.
She was buddies with Feanor first and they 'pal-ed around' all over Aman (doesnt that sound suspicious)
She was an excellent smith of both the female crafts and the male crafts, taught by her father who learned from Aule.
Ok, sorry, just posting as things come at me now 
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| Moralanqua wrote: | | Im just fascinated with her now! She had 7 kids! Thats alot of elfluvvin! What kind of lady does that? I think she was a big ole tramp! |
Ah, well, you would Me, I think she needed anger management classes too  Must've been a brilliant woman, who was slightly blind about Feanor's pride and stuff - either that or she was too eager for some elfluvvin. Judging from the amount of kids, I'd say the latter. 
Mm...chocolate... Ugh I hate being a girl! Curses on the idiot that ever invented the monthly - oh wait, that'd be God. *carefully retracts above statement*
Can you tell I'm incapable of being serious for more than two minutes?
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Really? Hmm, to me she just saw the passion in him (and good lord - what passion ) Honestly.. who WOULDN'T want that elf. 
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Moralanqua
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Pansy boy with a jewellery fetish and anger management issues? Unless he had a really big todger, i dont see the attraction!
Gimme Aegnor and his mullet anyday! (STEVE wasnt born yet)
Saraz -  Something to wash the chocs down! Poor lass!
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Whoa, back up. You like the Biggest Poof In All Arda-dom and you're calling Feanor a pansy? Good lord, you've gone mad.
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What's the Biggest Poof supposed to mean?
To quote Mora, I'm afraid to translate that...
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Biggest Poof - Fruitiest Fruit - Gayest (sp?) Nancy-boy of them all!
Finarfin!
*Little rainbow parade passes... OSA members look on with confusion*
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So...why is Finarfin gay? *is, as last post stated, VERY confused....but simply decides to go with the flow and nod her head yes*
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Moralanqua
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Yes, I'd like to know what makes him gay too?
Seems to me, he was the smart one! At least there was one of his brats left alive after the 3rd age!!!
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Mora has a point...I'll give her that
And d'y'know, I just recognized where your avvie comes from  Been looking at too many Hali-dear piccies and lo and behold, there's Mora's avvie in the background!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Nerdanel Thread |
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| Moralanqua wrote: | So, what do we know about this lady elf?
Was she a demure, timid Daddys girl who fell in love with a ginge elf against her own better judgement? Did she end up having 7 kids because Feanor broke her bedroom lock 6 times?
Or
Was she cracked up on Valorian Valium most days, met and humped the local ginge jeweller, Daddy found out and married them off for scandal reducing sakes. They copulate like rabbits and she spawns him 7 brats before she finally realised what the runes for Birth Control read like... They upped and left, she sighed and started eyeballing Tulkas in his leather skirt?
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Neither. In Volume 10 of the History of Middle-earth series, there is more information given about Nerdanel. These are Tolkien's own words on the subject:
"While still in early youth Fëanor married Nerdanel, a maiden of the Noldor; at which many wondered, for she was not among the fairest of her people. But she was strong, and free of mind, and filled with the desire of knowledge. In her youth she loved to wander far from the dwellings of the Noldor, either beside the long shores of the Sea or in the hills; and thus she and Fëanor had met and were companions in many journeys. Her father, Mahtan, was a great smith . . . and most dear to the heart of Aulë. Of Mahtan Nerdanel learned much of the crafts that women of the Noldor seldom used: the making of things of metal and stone. She made images, some of the Valar in their forms visible, and many others of men and women of the Eldar, and these were so like that their friends, if they knew not her art, would speak to them; but many things she wrought also of her own thought in shapes strong and strange but beautiful.
"She also was firm of will, but slower and more patient than Fëanor, desiring to understand minds rather than to master them. When in company with others she would often sit still listening to their words, and watching their gestures and the movements of their faces. Her mood she bequeathed in part to some of her sons, but not to all . . . With her wisdom at first she restrained Fëanor when the fire of his heart burned too hot; but his later deeds grieved her and they became estranged."
Tolkien is very straightforward about Nerdanel's personality and talents. After reading this, I grew to admire her. She was not Fëanor's doormat. Although she doesn't show this with firecracker sass, I'm sure she had her own way of keeping Fëanor in line. She comes across as very down-to-earth, and she's one of the few characters (besides Elrond) whom I believe I could actually relate to if they were real. However, that probably has more to do with me than with Nerdanel. I can easily see her as being more amused (or slightly irritated, depending upon what she was up to at the time) by Fëanor's displays of temper. A typical husband-wife exchange in the house of Fëanor:
FEANOR:  (fussing and fuming and carrying on about someone who ticked him off because they didn't immediately and without reservation acknowledge his status as Eru's Gift to Arda)
NERDANEL: (Working on her sculpture) Evening, honey.
FEANOR: How dare he! Why I oughta... 
NERDANEL: Sweetheart, you know you don't want to do that.
FEANOR:  Do not tell me what I do and do not want! I should march right back up there and give him a piece of my mind! Not as good as the other one I made!  : Preposterous! What does he know? I have more wisdom in my fingernail clippings than he does in his whole being! Idiot!
NERDANEL: Love, since you are indeed so wise, you know you don't want to do that.
FEANOR: I said don't-
NERDANEL: Because you are also wise enough to realize that that course of action would only make you look like a spoiled child. (Thinks to herself, "Which you are.  ) But you have far more important things to do than worry about what some random person thinks about what you do.
FEANOR: That's right. I do. I will not stoop to his level by reacting to his baseless and completely moronic criticisms of my creativity. He's simply jealous.
NERDANEL: See how wise you are, my love.
FEANOR: I am aren't I?
(Another conversation later on)
FEANOR: (fussing and fuming)
NERDANEL: (Working on another sculpture) 
FEANOR: Are you listening to me?
NERDANEL: Not really.
FEANOR: (Fuss and fume)
NERDANEL: Darling, I really need quiet time right now.
FEANOR: What am I supposed to do!
NERDANEL: I don't care. You're the jewelsmith. Go make some jewelry or something. |
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