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The Athrebeth Finrod ah Andreth

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inglor



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:53 pm    Post subject: The Athrebeth Finrod ah Andreth Reply with quote

I was reading this and something struck me:
Andreth's description remarkably resembles the Garden of Eden tale from the Old testament.
Is this a figment of my imagination or am I just slow in realizing this?

A side note: I believe this passage is the most dialogue from one elflord Tolkien ever wrote. I think only Galadriel got more press time.

Thoughts, Opinions?

Inglor

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I know it's my favorite piece of Tolkien's writing. You're right about the dialogue... Tolkien doesn't tell stories through dialogue very often, so that piece is special. I'll re-read it tonight and see if I can remember other discussion-type things about it (my mind lets go of the details, but happily, I think I've written stuff in the margins of that piece. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Eden-esque description is most likely pretty accurate observation. There is also reference to the Virgin Mary in the dialogue and the concept that Eru would have to come into the world in order to fix it. The people who believed in this were the people of the Old Hope, as Adnreth calls it.

I've read this piece many times. It does such a beautiful job of explaining what it's like to be on either side of the chasm separating teh elves and mortals. It is also subtly romantic as the end. I like the hinted at love that Finrod holds for her in addition to the love that his borther feels for her. I also think that this piece serves to support the thought someone wrote about in another post that Finrod was Tolkien's favorite elf lord.

Ellie
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