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Thuriniel
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 Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:50 am Post subject: Amarie |
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I'm assuming I'm posting this in the right forum ...
Another one of my quick questions ... within canon, what is it known about Amarie? All I know about her is that she was of the Vanyar, and that Finrod loved her but she didn't follow him into exile.
I guess my two main questions are ... did she love him back? and did she go to Mandos after Finrod left?
... that about summarizes it.
Thanks in advance  !
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from what I can gaterh, Yes, and No
There are some theories that they were wed and had child/ren.
The Prof. gave and enigmatic quote that "Finrod had no children in Exile". We can suppose that if Finrod had no children at all, T would not have added the "Exile" part to that statment.
Also, T wrote that Finrod was the quickest to leave Mandos and is the only other elflord that Tolkien specifically says left. One of the earlier Silmarillion had him "Walking under the trees of Eldamar with Amarie" instead of Finarfin.
Andreth gave me an answer to a similar question here: http://www.openscrolls.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=924
Hope that helps
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Thuriniel
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| inglor wrote: | from what I can gaterh, Yes, and No
There are some theories that they were wed and had child/ren.
The Prof. gave and enigmatic quote that "Finrod had no children in Exile". We can suppose that if Finrod had no children at all, T would not have added the "Exile" part to that statment.
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Yes and no, uh? I guess I can just interpret it however I want to then  . That quote by the Prof. really gives room to plenty of interpration and it does make it sound as if Finrod did have children before going into Exile.
Of course, it contradicts the Silmarillion when Galadriel aks Finrod is he's ever going to wed ...
I'm working on a short Sil fic, and Amarie is mentioned briefly. I don't need heaps of information, but I wanted to have her "marital status" straight.
I would like to think that Finrod was at least married or betrothed to Amarie before he left ... he just sounds too lonely while he's in Exile.
Thanks for the information inglor! (and thanks also for leading me to that other post ... I miss Andreth  !)
Right after I posted this topic I wondered if I shouldn't just send you a PM  !
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Amarie |
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| Thuriniel wrote: |
I guess my two main questions are ... did she love him back? |
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and did she go to Mandos after Finrod left?
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Contradiction in the Sil?!?!?!!? No way... 
Let's not get started on Orodreth an Gil-Galad...
Christopher did the best he could, I'm not sure why he changed the person he was with after his rebirth from Amarie to Finarfin though...
Any mention of Amarie in a fic definitely gets my attentioin.
Inglor
I miss her too...
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Thuriniel
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Amarie |
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| inglor wrote: | Christopher did the best he could, I'm not sure why he changed the person he was with after his rebirth from Amarie to Finarfin though...
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Yes, that makes little sense ... I think it would've been more meaningful if it would've been Amarie rather than Finarfin ... after all, she is mentioned in the Sil as the one Finrod loved -- and even if by only reading the Sil we don't know much about their relationship, there was obviously something going on between them (especially since Finrod won't even consider marriage to another elleth).
Thanks for clarifying your previous answer ... I think I had misread it .
As for the fic I'm working on, it's only one chapter, PG, canon, Sil based ... nothing like I've ever written before ... and I'm a bit scared  . But hopefully it will see the light of day soon .
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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so, Inglor, are you going to do a BIO of Amarie for NancyBrooke's propsed FAQ for the library? get on over there and volunteer for it!
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I just saw this thread. Thank you guys. So sweet! I feel loved.  I'm very happy my break wasn't as long as I expected it to be.
And Inglor's right - you can go either way with Finrod and Amarie. Completely up to you. You'll have to let us know when you post the fic. I love Finrod and Amarie stories. |
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Thuriniel
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This is actually a Nerdanel fic (there I couldn't help it ... only Panneth and Ellie knew what I'm writing ).
Amarie is mentioned, though ... and who knows if she'll have a more prominent role as I write ... I don't trust myself to stick to what I've planned .
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