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 Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: lol |
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| maravelynne wrote: | yeah its another day and weve got it cleared out
sorry for getting so pissy, loooooong loooooong day...
and yeah it is terribly crappy to have misquito bites for boobs
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We all have days like that Mara, glad you and Nancy got it sorted out. I like this place to be happy and will provide medication to this effect  |
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Moralanqua
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| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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I think you over prescribed me and BB... 
Here is an extension of this thread -
What if Bilbo had kept the Ring in his pocket and taken it to Rivvie, bypassing the need for Strider to meet Frodo & Gang.
Would we have ended up with a Fellowship at all? Would Bilbo have ended up face down in a puddle? Would the Fellowship have had more elves instead if the hobbitses? 
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SilverMoonLady
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| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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face down in a puddle??? *very confused*
Hmmm... Amazing what each decision can change, eh?
What if Sam hadn't been so good at eavesdropping...? And Merry and Pippin been less curious?
I wonder what companions Gandalf would have found for Frodo then... But then perhaps he would not have ended up locked in Orthanc, and wouldn't be aware of Saruman's treachery. Yikes!
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Scribe
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| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| SilverMoonLady wrote: | face down in a puddle??? *very confused*
Hmmm... Amazing what each decision can change, eh?
What if Sam hadn't been so good at eavesdropping...?
And Merry and Pippin been less curious?
I wonder what companions Gandalf would have found for Frodo then... But then perhaps he would not have ended up locked in Orthanc, and wouldn't be aware of Saruman's treachery. Yikes! |
If Sam hadn't been eavesdropping, Frodo would be Shelob bait or killed shortly after the breaking of the Fellowship when Gollum came to steal the ring.
And Merry and Pippin had been less curious?
Well for starters the damn bucket wouldn't have fallen down the well!
He wouldn't have left Frodo alone until they reached the Prancing Pony until Aragron turned up.
And yes, Mora and BB broke into the pharmacy, raided all the medication after which point we found them both up a tree, painted purple - singing an odd ditty called IF I'm a Grape what are you?
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SilverMoonLady
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| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Just dropping AU plot bunnies darling:) I too can well imagine the ramifications..
Purple eh? 
Teeheehee...... rather like waking up on the couch with polka dots. Blue polka dots. 
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| Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| Vulgarweed wrote: | Hmmm.
Dead Pippin = Dead Faramir? (No one saves him on the pyre)
Dead Merry = Dead Eowyn? (No one distracts the Witch-king)
Dead Sam = Dead Frodo, obviously. (Whether by Shelob, the Orcs of Cirith Ungol, Gollum, or just exhaustion/hunger/thirst, doesn't matter much) |
Very interesting! Which begs the question (and I don't mean to beat a dead ... uh ... horse, here) but what if Boromir had lived? Who else might have lived or died?
What if Gandalf had been able to lead the Fellowship through Moria and to Amon Hen? What might have happened at Amon Hen had he been there? on in Lorien?
The trick with this bunny, it seems to me, would be to find an interesting twist that effected a specific portion of the time line. Too many ripples in the pond would difuse the 'what if?' -- and make for a really long fic!
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| Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| Scribe wrote: | And yes, Mora and BB broke into the pharmacy, raided all the medication after which point we found them both up a tree, painted purple - singing an odd ditty called IF I'm a Grape what are you?
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So THATS why I had a purple tinge... I thought Mora had bitten me and I'd contacted some sort of disease...
Thanks for clearing that up Scribe, feel so much better now
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | | The trick with this bunny, it seems to me, would be to find an interesting twist that effected a specific portion of the time line. Too many ripples in the pond would difuse the 'what if?' -- and make for a really long fic! |
Too true, too true... This is where we really see how important each person and each decision is to any given enterprise.
If Gandalf hadn't died in selfless sacrifice, he would not have come back as Gandalf the White, and perhaps would not have had the power to do what needed doing... Thank goodness for that little pebble down the well:)
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| Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:52 am Post subject: Instrumental Characters |
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HERE HERE! Sam and Aragorn are the characters that are truely crucial. If Frodo opted out of the system, so to speak, Sam would have been able to do the job. And Aragorn, well...the survival of the human race rested on the question of "do I have the guts to be who I am" And don't we all face that question at some point? (We just don't have the literal weight of the world of men on our sholders.)
WHICH IS WHY Tolkien did not kill them off! ( I would have never forgiven JRRT if he'd killed off Legolas, I was in love with that elf from the moment he entered Rivendell in the book... Then he rode on to the screen, and my immagination was well....out done.
Sorry slight elf infatuation, got away with me for a moment.
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maravelynne
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| Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:40 am Post subject: too much to describe |
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lets see....
if merry and pippin weren't so curious-
Merry wouldn't have been throwing rocks in the water outside of the mines of Moria, that disturbed the creature, that after everything, forced the fellowship inside the mines of moria-
and then-
Pippin wasn't throwing rocks (book) or a bucket/skeleton (movie) down the well, the fellowship might have made it out of the mines of Moria without Gandalf getting "Killed", and he wouldn't have come back as Gandalf the White, and his powers of Gandalf the Grey couldn't save Rohan, omg the possibilities go on forever.
But the one reply I saw out of the site that I got this question from was that Pippin was killed under the troll, and it didn't really mess that much up except he/she wrote the reactions from everyone else. |
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SilverMoonLady
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Well, I guess it depends on your point of view (that 1 Pip dead under a troll wouldn't make much difference)
No huge difference for the world of Men perhaps, but I can tell you the Shire would never be the same... And Shire-Gondor relations would not have been the same. Can you see Paladin Took (his father, the Thain, head of the largest and wealthiest family in the place) welcoming the King of Gondor who had cost him his only son with a friendly eye?
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