[BittenBuggy]

Very well put Nancy.

[Andreth]

I'd like to take a moment to clarify what I said before, because I think it was partially misconstrued.

I didn't say that if you don't like Hobbit smut or you don't prefer to read it that you're thinking of the authors of Hobbit smut as having something wrong with them. I wasn't even talking about people who write Hobbit smut - I was talking about people who fancy Hobbits and the unintentional use of an offensive term like 'pedophile' in conjunction with finding Hobbits attractive.

I'm not saying that people are wrong for having those personal opinions as to their own preferences - I was saying that before anyone uses the term pedophile or pedophilia that we should stop and think how that's going to come across to those people who *do* like Hobbits.

The people who've said it before aren't trying to be mean or insulting - they're only airing their opinions as they apply to themselves. But sometimes the most hurtful things are said unintentionally. As a chronic sufferer of foot-in-mouth-disease I can testify to that fact.

I don't read a lot of Hobbit smut, myself, but I consider Silvermoon Lady to be my friend and I have a tremendous amount of respect for her as a writer. I've seen her feelings hurt over and over again in these forums by inadvertant statements. It bothered me enough this time that I wanted to try to point out where the insult was in a way that I hoped wouldn't compound the problem by insulting somebody else. I do apologize if I've done that - I just wanted to point out that we all should try to avoid making comments about pedophila that clearly hurt one of our friends' feelings.


Anna

[Viv]

Hobbit smut is hot.

Old ladies like me imagining kids like Elijah Wood nekkid is a little... weird-feeling.

So -- easy solution here -- I don't imagine the movie actors when I'm reading hobbit smut (except for maybe Billy Boyd a little, when he gets that open-mouthed big-eyed look... it's just so Pippinesque).

At any rate, if my squick about Mr Wood (hee) was interpreted as a grievance against hobbit smut in general, it really wasn't intended that way.

I think Sam is sexy. But then, I think Gimli is sexy. And if you think that hobbit-fancying is hard in this fandom, just try dwarf-fancying!

[Saralitazie]

Gimli - sexy - ?

[BittenBuggy]

*Roots around for that delicious naked dwarf picture*

Somebody find it in the forums and show this poor lass!

[Anna]

Oh, yeah, Gimli...nekkid.....
I wouldn´t kick him out of my bed! *grins* But don´t tell the elfies! As a convinced PEF I normally go for the tall, lean, aloof and pretty (oh, so pretty!) guys, even in RL. But Gimli... oooo....he seems so, hmm...sturdy!

I think that´s the reason hobbits don´t do anything for me. Their lack of 'sturdiness' (at least compared to me). I´d feel like an elephant next to a wee hobbit like Frodo!
Their height has nothing to do with it, but they are just too bloody cute! Well, IMHO.

However, we should all be nice and tolerant towards each other. Yeah, I can somehow understand how someone can get nasty thoughts about peadophilia when confronted with hobbit-smut, but it´s not a very nice thing to blurt out. I don´t think anyone meant to hurt people, though. But I fully understand that the PHFs grow tired of defending the hobbits all the time, considering the entire LOTR fandom is more or less overrun by PEFs!

As for what kind of smut I read -- ANY smut whatsoever! As long as it´s wellwritten, that is.
I´ve even read a woman/uruk hai-fic filled to the brim with delicious smut! Sadly I can´t remember where...

[Mitasova]

Frankly, I prefer to read smut about characters with whom I'd like to have sex myself, and hobbits aren't them. I like the short folk, Frodo in particular, but the sex involving them, explicit on-stage sex in particular just doesn't do it for me (may have something to do with me being fairly tall for a woman - nearly 1.80 in metrical system). But I definitely would not mark writers and readers of hobbit smut as paedophiles - the hobbits are adult, after all, though their demeanor is somewhat childish, imo, especially in the movies. But they're grown-ups and definitely have a lot of sex, so if other people find it appealing, good for them.

Incest of any kind, otoh, absolutely grosses me out. I just feel that people who write it make the caracters commit something that they (the characters) would consider the worst dishonour imaginable just to fulfill writers' sexual fancy. That's what repells me. In Tolkien's world incest is a hideous crime, period.
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Tanya

[Andreth]

After Sindohte posted that Gimli picture I went and tracked the artist down over at Elfwood. She's obviously got quite the Gimli fetish, which is a good thing for those of us trying to find a sexy mental image of Dwarves! This one's my favorite. Hmmm, I wonder if the Elf's name is Fifi. -




This is the one Sindohte posted, which is very, very nice.



And last but not least, here's a link to the artist's Elfwood page.

http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/s/a/sabrar/sabrar.html

Sara, if you don't think Gimli's sexy after seeing these pictures, then I'm going to say you simply are immune to being converted to Dwarf smut.

Anna

[Viv]

Anna, gah. Were you trying to make me squeal out loud? But happy squeals. I now have a new desktop. hee.

[Saralitazie]

[Ellbee]

Whoa! I'd seen (and swooned over) that second picture before, but the first one is a real thud-inducer. I guess we know what Gimli was doing while he hung out in Rivendell waiting for the Fellowship to leave. Now someone needs to write it.

-Ell

[queenoftheshire]

Whoo! Finally! We see those dwarf pics floating around again!

[Viv]

And we all thought "Elf-friend" was because he was pals with Lego. Ha!

[Aerin]

I would have died to have been Rosie. Sam not only worships the ground she walks on... but...He's hot. And those other two...PIP and Merry, adorable. Frodo, not so much, but to each their own. I try not to lable people as pedofiles unless they are wierdos who are actually involved with or enjoy watcing sex with an actual Human child. To say that some one is a pedophile because they enjoy hobbit sex stories is SSSSTTTRRREEETTTCCCHHHIIINNNGGG the bounds of reality even farther than the great Tolkien. Hobbits while small are consenting adults. If you look at it in that light, consenting adults, no matter what their size, there is no problem. NO reason to call someone a pedofile at all. SO BACK OFF HER! She's a Mom, and to quote my own mother "there is no need for name calling."

[Aerin]

sorry I can't spell Label!