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Hathor



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BittenBuggy wrote:
Taxes and all that bloody tea! Its enough to make you sick. Puke


The Brits rob you blind with taxes because we have what is cheerfully dubbed a Neo-Socialist society in which we have a free (albeit badly run) National Health Service, council houses, benefits, education system and heavily subsidised university amongst other things. After the Dentistry Month From Hell I'm rather glad that we pay large amounts of taxes - it means that me and my studenty self + cheapass family don't have to pay for my awkward glasses and icky crown!

And I love tea. Rule Brittania! Etc.

(And the South is far too pricey. Come back Up North, Panneth! So much cheaper!)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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First of all, after reading all of that, I feel pretty dern uneducated! I'm majoring in Ancient Lit, but I still know nothing. Embarassed Viv, better not put me on your list, you'd just have to cross me off and warn others later! I give you all the royal nod for being so smart and surviving so many years of schooling. Wink

Now I just have to see if I can do it... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(And the South is far too pricey. Come back Up North, Panneth! So much cheaper!)


Except for one thing – the soft drink Irn Bru. I found [since I’m addicted to the stuff] that it is the one thing cheaper in London than up here in Scotland, where the stuff is made. But you can’t get decent pies down south. Laughing
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Leilana



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpaceWeavil wrote:
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(And the South is far too pricey. Come back Up North, Panneth! So much cheaper!)


Except for one thing – the soft drink Irn Bru. I found [since I’m addicted to the stuff] that it is the one thing cheaper in London than up here in Scotland, where the stuff is made. But you can’t get decent pies down south. Laughing
Jess


EW! I came over here and they made me try that stuff... I decided not to be rude and spit it back into the glass! wtf I thought it was some kind of cruel joke my Scottie 'friends' had pulled on me, until they actually drank a few glasses of their own. Crazy I seriously thought they had mixed some weird stuff together and made me drink it...!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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EW! I came over here and they made me try that stuff... I decided not to be rude and spit it back into the glass! I thought it was some kind of cruel joke my Scottie 'friends' had pulled on me, until they actually drank a few glasses of their own. I seriously thought they had mixed some weird stuff together and made me drink it...!


I’m addicted to the stuff. Has to be diet variety though, not the ordinary stuff. That’s like drinking syrup. Had terrible trouble getting it in London though. Only one shop sold it near me, the big supermarket on Tottenham Court Road [which, incidentally, featured in the film ’28 Days Later’, but that is completely irrelevant Laughing Laughing Laughing ]

Couldn’t get haggis easily in London easily, so I ended up trafficking the stuff down there every time I visited the folks. I never wanted any, having tried it, but everyone at college wanted it.

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Leilana



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's DIET Iron Bru??? I cannot even imagine what that would end up tasting like... Puke heehee
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leilana wrote:
There's DIET Iron Bru??? I cannot even imagine what that would end up tasting like... Puke heehee


Not as bad as Vimto Guiness

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inglor



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forester by education, security equipment sales by trade. Tolkien Geek by choice. My mother writes and I spent most of my at home teenage years editing for her. I've been a closet geek since I first read LOTR in school and played D&D as a result. I went into remission when I discovered girls liked me and they were my distraction until the hormone levels plateaued. I stumbled onto fanfiction after the proliferation of sites after The Movies came out. I am also a wannabe history geek, especially warfare and Europe. I guess that is why I'm drawn to the Silmarillion. With the exception of PWP? I almost exclusively read Sil stories which is DOMINATED by Maedhros/Fingon slash. So I decided to read/write fics revolving around the Finarfin Clan, especially Finrod and Galadriel.

I love reading gap fillers especially the ones that try to connect pieces of the story in creative ways. And I try to write similarly. Peeves include blatant disregard for LACE though if it is an Elf Fic that is rated NC-17 I know going in that LACE is being ignored and just enjoy the show. Grammer doesn't bug me much but mispelled character names/places can ruin a story for me. Those are the easiest things to research and there is no excuse (now I've cursed myself...)

Warning! Ensuing Generalities, No offense is implied nor intended

On another note, in another thread the subject of lack of male ff writers came up and I have given it some thought: I believe generally that men don't have the time or drive for it. I've found that when I get real interested in work or new ways of paying for bills, all thoughts of ff and Tolkien drift away. Since men GENERALLY are the ones most concerened with finding ways for paying for more bills, our imagination goes towards that and relaxation efforts tend to be of the physical nature and not the mental (golf, hunting, woodwork). I know there are a lot of single women who are concerned with bill paying but I think we (men and women) are just wired differently and women tend to drift towards the emotional and men physical. evidence: Most thriller writers are men and most romance writers are women. The fiction based on action and facts: men, emotion: women (Tom Clancy and Daniel Steele). Even Dragonlance (Hickman/Weiss) is emotion based. Yeah it has a lot of action but it's not the focus like Clancy or Crichton.
Or am I just fooling myself?
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Sorry about the OT ramble but I have a long drive to work and get a lot of time to think about ramdom things...

Inglor

But then again I could be wrong...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

inglor wrote:
Peeves include blatant disregard for LACE


Ah, yes, LACE. Well, the truth is, I don't feel any need to consider all that stuff Christopher edited and published as necessarily canon, seeing that it was unfinished by the man himself and sometimes downright contradictory. What I do find amusing is that some purists try to say that The Hobbit is not canon, I suppose because some of it contradicts their own ideas, even though it was written, finished and published by Tokien himself, occupies the same universe, and tells an important part of the story of LotR. I wouldn't call it a peeve, though, because I happily read stories that don't agree with my own viewpoints if they're well-written. I just take a different view for my own writing.


-Ell Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

inglor wrote:
I guess that is why I'm drawn to the Silmarillion. With the exception of PWP? I almost exclusively read Sil stories which is DOMINATED by Maedhros/Fingon slash.


Hold up....

WHERE is the Maedhros/Fingon slash? I have found like... two. I have searched before and come up with nothing Sad But now I have hope! Banana

The slash is out there.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My formal education started in geology (been picking up rocks everywhere I go since I could walk). But, after 3 rounds of failing college chemistry and in the middle of the oil bust here in Texas (job that might actually pay for that degree nonexistent), I changed my major to my first real love: archaelogy, specifically the Indians of the American Southwest. I even took some classes on jewelry crafting to understand silversmithing and setting stones like the turquiose jewelry made by native craftsmen. I've been a Park Ranger in Washington, D.C. - giving historical tours of the city to tourists. In school I was the Resident Advisor (Dorm Mom) for 3 years - great for learning about people and interactions - especially how young people can make really bad decisions - as well as how some young people have incredible discipline and foresight for their age.

This all lead to a career in the mortgage/land title industry. Yeah, not real related but I could not only read a land survey but tell the surveyor how to go do it right. I could close loans for homes and read title reports - so totally dull!! But it paid the bills.
Which has lead to my second career: professional mom and homemaker to 3 boys (4 if you count my husband!LOL).

I read The Hobbit the same year I read To Kill A Mockingbird and A Tree Grows in Brooklyn - still 2 of my all time faves. Then , of course I read Lord of the Rings and got into D&D briefly in High School. In High School I was the real geek. They discovered an Indian Burial Ground on the land of the Chemical Processing Plant where my dad was the Superintendent. He took me out there and from the time I was 14 until I graduated High School I was there every weekend digging up bones! It even lead to a couple of science projects that went on to competition. I even won 3rd place Internationally one year. I met lots of people from all over the world and had pen pals in 4 countries but hated waiting months for letters to come back. So I have really found a home here!

I'll stop rambling now.
Oh, love tea, the hot kind like in England, but also the Souther U.S. staple - Iced Tea (but not sweet)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yavanie,
Iced tea I believe is an American thing but if it ain't sweet, it ain't Southern. There is only one area in the world where the waiters don't look at you funny when you say "Sweet Tea" and that is south of Tennesee/Virginia. When I have been out of the South (and some parts of Atlanta and Florida (which ain't southern(except N Florida)), I ask for sweet tea and the waiters usually raise an eye brow and point to the packets of sugar.

Dammit.

PS. Your resume resembles mine except I started in Engineering. Calculus and I didn't get along well so I opted for Forestry (which has an alamingly large amout of statistics in it). I have been a lumber grader, "Engineer" (job title only) for a research firm and now Sales for Big Brother, oh yeah and I was in the Army National Guard (10 months Regular Army)

Eclectic is a nice way of saying odd...

Inglor

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I've to disregard 2 pages worth of conversation if I am to make this post, but I hope you'd bear with me.

Now I see why Viv is one helluva good writer (Head Editor Shocked Bow )... Theraphist, linguist, , vetenarian, accountant! This really show that writing is for all!

I'm currently studying Pre-Law in the gov university, 5 hours of bustime away from home Crying or Very sad. I can't say much about my writing, they tend to be extremely random in quality but anyways being a former journalist dropped more anvils on my head than anything else ever did. In a sense it taught me to be more observant about a lot of things.

Man, I still feel extremely inadequate about many things.

I've still yet to find my forte in its brightest form, but heck, in the words of miriel361;

<i>Writing is my outlet. Writing is my sanity. Writing is my sanctuary. </i>

I wonder, does studying to become a lawyer or 'debate' help your writing?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wonder, does studying to become a lawyer or 'debate' help your writing?
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Well, I sat my pre-university law course for a year and start my degree in September, but I haven’t noticed my writing style changing, although maybe it does help to look at things logically? Like, to read through some of the LACE or whatever and then apply those ideas of Tolkien’s to other situations. Because you get into that sort of mindset, I suppose.

Good to meet a fellow law student though. I know I’m really looking forward to getting down to the proper course after the summer, because this time I will be the mature student with money!
Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright I'm gonna ask the obvious question that so glaringly proves that I'm a newbie: What does LACE stand for?

It's good to be back BTW, I have had no internet capability since last week! I have missed my daily dose of madness and insanity Smile
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