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Andreth
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Oo, ooo, ooo - lots of good information. I love it. I'll have to go back over it again this evening when I have more time, because I have some questions about some specifics.
But in the mean time - something Jane Doe said got me to thinking, the comment about the usual fireworks of orgasms. That's how most people describe it - an explosion, stars and lights swimming behind the eyes, etc.... Fireworks. Anybody got any ideas on more creative ways to describe the sensation of an orgasm? Especially from the male perspective. (Don't worry, Inglor. I won't rag on you for TMI this time. ) |
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JaneDoe
Joined: 19 Nov 2003 Posts: 0 Location: My own little world
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Andreth wrote: | Oo, ooo, ooo - lots of good information. I love it. I'll have to go back over it again this evening when I have more time, because I have some questions about some specifics.
But in the mean time - something Jane Doe said got me to thinking, the comment about the usual fireworks of orgasms. That's how most people describe it - an explosion, stars and lights swimming behind the eyes, etc.... Fireworks. Anybody got any ideas on more creative ways to describe the sensation of an orgasm? Especially from the male perspective. |
I can't speak from the male perspective, but I know that for me, orgasms are not a technicolor display. No lights or stars or explosions at all. It also isn't surfing (as in "waves" coming upon me or something). It's far more down-to-earth. It centers around touch moreso than vision, and what I often remember is this strange urge to want more, to be touched everywhere all at once, but especially where it counts. There's a tingling that starts deep within, probably as deep as my bones (the pelvic bone to be precise) and emanating from there in a tingling that grows into a powerful throbbing, almost like a pump. I feel so open that it's like I can take in the whole world if I wanted.
And then i wake up!
The words don't really do it justice, but I hope you can understand what I mean. |
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JaneDoe
Joined: 19 Nov 2003 Posts: 0 Location: My own little world
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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And another thing.
Unless your characters are into pain, please do not describe bruising kisses as being pleasurable. It hurts. Really, it does. I can only imagine a bruising kiss feeling about as pleasurable as trying to swallow scalding hot coffee. |
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inglor

Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 853 Location: Not here, not there, not anywhere
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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One thing I can say is that at the moment that the O reaches its peak, my mind is completely blank. It is an odd sensation, nothing enters my mind when an orgasm is its most intense, zero, nada. for abouyt two or three seconds (could be longer or shorter) my mind is a void. Its weird, my consciousness receeds as the orgasm intensifies. Everything goes away:who I'm with (don't tell my wife this...), the room, time, everything.
Little tingle starts at the base of the spine and gets larger and more intense, its like your whole body is being tickled at once, only better. That is just how I describe mine. but I can't hink of an exact description that does it justice
Orgasm descriptions:
the way a big wave builds up then violently crashes and spreads out is one of my favorite metaphors
the way a symphony builds to a craciendo(SP?) and then calms
(think Edvard Grieg's In the Hall of the Mountain King. This piece is a musical translation of an orgasm. Listen to it with sex in mind, you'll see...hear what I mean)
A hay bale fire ( or anything dry and tinderish that burns fast):, starts with a spark then builds, gets real intense and hot, the whole thing burning at one time, then quickly dies as fuel is exhausted
Inglor _________________ Hi, My name is Inglor and I am a Tolkien Geek (sub-species: Silgeek)
Owner of the phrase: "merciless attention" so authorized by Viv |
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Andreth
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 1211
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: Ahem... |
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| Aerin wrote: | | (Is the half elf thing a Sue ism? Just wondering) Funny to think that a person of 1000+ years could be doing anything for the first time... |
Come to think of it, that is a Sue ism. So I guess we can also count Elrond as having Sue potential, too.
| Inglor wrote: | | Depends on how Human he was, how much he was ruled by emotions, etc. I would imagine that if the couple were quite young it is a possibility that he might go off too soon, but I can't see elves loosing that much control, unless he was REALLY, REALLY worked up, (see eldest sons of Finwe or Gwindor). I mean like 18 yearold human male after surfing porn for days worked up. |
It's Elrond, so what's he, like a quarter human? I figured he would have that Elf-ly control but could be occasionally undermined by his human ancestry. He's about 1500 years old by this point and I would assume would have to have his fair share of Elf-ish control or he could never have made it that long with no poontang and not have gone insane. Of course, if you're going by Elf (or Valian) years, then that would have been more like 150 years, but that's still a long damn time. Maybe it's one of those situations where you don't miss something that you've never had?
I don't know. Lots of options and hard to choose which way to go with it.  |
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Andreth
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 1211
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Good then, everybody so far seems to be of the same opinion - sex scenes tend to get boring if they follow the same old same old of a little groping, a little French kissing to the nether regions, then bam! both parties get off at the same time and go to sleep happy and satisfied. Avoid this scenario as much as possible. And don't skimp on the foreplay.
But now I have to ask, what exactly qualifies as a simultaneous orgasm? Is it when both parties just have their universes align and have magically wonderful orgasms at the same instance? Or would it be an SO if the woman having an orgasm and this stimulates the man to have one within a few seconds of hers, or vice versa? I know there is an anatomical basis in this scenario, what with tissues engorging and muscles clenching and what have you, but how well does that scenario work in a sex scene? Would most readers consider that as overused or acceptable? |
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ilistine

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 139 Location: In the cottage nextdoor to Imedhuir Hamgeredis
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject: pouts |
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Keek is sitting in the corner pouting! Half-elven hmmmm, the other guy would provide a SO I just know he would.
Alas, I think I have opined on this on that other site! However, thinking from the standpoint of both parties being unexperienced, I would say that it would be more fun for the reader to read what each person is experiencing. The act itself will be more intense to read if we get to be there with each moment of new sensations and feelings. Is she nervous and how does that affect her responses to things? Is he fighting within himself to maintain control? Does she move a certain way that he finds amazing, likewise, how does she respond to the way he is moving, touching and stimulating? I guess for me I would believe a SO could occur if the scene was written in such a way that both parties are anticipating the needs of the other before they are finished. That maybe unlikely in chaste virgins. But then again, they are more than human so possibly they would be able to do that the first time.
Well, get going woman and write it! (Of course if you want a second opinion on what you have written, I would offer my humble services at anytime.Just let me hide my pom-poms Heehee)
Christine _________________ One must never forget:
Teehee the bouncing Elf!!!
(That is Rumil if you didn't know)
Ilistine = Istoiell's scribe, recounting her sordid tales in the Village of Imedhuir! Naughty Eomer, has a secret. Oh my what could it be? |
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Andreth
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: pouts |
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| ilistine wrote: | Keek is sitting in the corner pouting! Half-elven hmmmm, the other guy would provide a SO I just know he would.
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Of course you would, you Ereinion-hussy, you.  |
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inglor

Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 853 Location: Not here, not there, not anywhere
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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My most intense memory of my first experience was the initial penetration. The previously never experienced feeling of being inside a woman with all the temperature and slippery adjectives you can think of, that unique feeling was as good as the orgasm itself. It is still one of the highlights of the actual act. I always like to give it a good soak before getting down to business.
I would think in a virgin-virgin union, that first moment of nonvirginity could take up at least a paragraph without being lengthy
Inglor
(You guys are killing my wife ) _________________ Hi, My name is Inglor and I am a Tolkien Geek (sub-species: Silgeek)
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Eyborg
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 429 Location: Reykjavík, Iceland
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting thread...
BTW I wonder... would a female Elf's first time hurt? For human females it usually does...  |
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Aerin

Joined: 16 Jun 2004 Posts: 417 Location: ORLI'S LIPS are distracting me
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Is it when both parties just have their universes align and have magically wonderful orgasms at the same instance? |
That is my take on it, but, whaddo I know? _________________ Pervy Elf Fancier. |
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limegreensloth

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 78 Location: slacking off like all good uni students
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| Eyborg wrote: | Interesting thread...
BTW I wonder... would a female Elf's first time hurt? For human females it usually does...  |
Hmm, good question. With humans it is more than possible for the first time to be painless - with the right attention before hand mine was anything but painful. However, it would also depend on if she'd done anything besides sex beforehand and how talented (natural or otherwise) the partner was. In the end, I think with the whole elves being more in tune with their bodies, and so probably also being better in tune with their partners, due to the deep spiritual connections that are a part of elf relationships thing, combined with their enhanced physical abilities, that it might feel weird at first but probably not painful.
Oh and my favourite description of an orgasm? It's like a sneeze between your legs, only magnified 1000 times.
build up, build up, build up, climax, release. repeat until satisfied. _________________ Economists do it with models. |
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Aerin

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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that's a good one, and a little more accurate than the fireworks thing.... _________________ Pervy Elf Fancier. |
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Vulgarweed
Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 31 Location: The Sickly Crescent (Best Tavern in the Morgul Vale)
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Well, if neither of them has done this before, I think they'd probably be fascinated with every little sensation and every part of their partner's body. (Ilmarë, is it? Still feeling her own body as a bit of a novelty?) I'd think they'd have a nice tension going between urgency and wanting to savor everything. They're immortal, they got time!
Not having just the one big SO means the writer gets to write/reader gets to read more than one orgasm. Isn't that a good thing? Hands and fingers are good. Oral is even better. And she does strike me as a very curious, I-want-to-try-that type of girl. |
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sindohte

Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 1621 Location: Rubbing up against an Elf
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:42 am Post subject: Re: Ahem... |
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| Andreth wrote: |
It's Elrond, so what's he, like a quarter human? I figured he would have that Elf-ly control but could be occasionally undermined by his human ancestry. He's about 1500 years old by this point and I would assume would have to have his fair share of Elf-ish control or he could never have made it that long with no poontang and not have gone insane. Of course, if you're going by Elf (or Valian) years, then that would have been more like 150 years, but that's still a long damn time. Maybe it's one of those situations where you don't miss something that you've never had?
I don't know. Lots of options and hard to choose which way to go with it.  |
I cannot believe that I missed your post Anna. Poontang? You truly are my other half because I use that word myself. When I think about how a virginal Elrond would react at the chance to finally get some 'tang, I envision him as being at war between his mind and body. The human side of his nature would be all ready to jump into the action, while his Elf nature would be counseling him to hold back. The question then becomes - can Ilmare flip his switch to bring out his passionate side? We all know what the answer is to that question folks Elrond represents to me someone who is the perfect balance between passion and control. And just because he hasn't waxed his board doesn't mean he won't be a sexual freak when the time finally comes for him to do the deed. It's always the quiet, intense folks you have to watch out for in the end. Ilmare is going to be SUCH a lucky girl. _________________ abandon thought, and let the dream descend... |
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