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HeartoftheNight



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:54 am    Post subject: Silmarillion question: The Sun and the Moon Reply with quote

I must drive everyone nuts in these forums with all my questions. Very Happy Don't kill innocent newbie.

Anyhow, there was something I sort of remembered from the Sil about the sun and the moon. Its been years since I read it, so I'm not sure about it anymore. What was the gender associated with the Moon and the Sun. Was it the traditional woman as the Moon and the man as the Sun? Or vice versa?

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Eyborg



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been a long time since I read the Silmarillion, but from what I recall, the Sun was female and the Moon was male.
(Interestingly enough, that's also how it was in the old Germanic world). Smile
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Andreth



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't feel guilty about asking questions. We loves questions here, we do. There are several compulsive question answerers like myself and Nancy Brooke who jump on the opportunity to answer a question.

The Sun was a female - Arien the Maia to be exact. In the original tales she was Urwen, a Maia of Vana and in the Silm she still worked in Vana's gardens. She was a spirit of fire and that's why she could carry the sun. Apparently Morgoth liked fiery women because he tried to get in her pants so she would have his kids, but she burned him both figuratively and literally. Guess that's why she was considered to be mightier than her moon-counterpart.

The Moon was male - Tilion was a Maia of Orome who would come back from his hunts and come to the gardens of Lorien to lay beside the lake of Este and dream in the silver light beams from Telperion. Originally he was called Silmo and was said to be a 'youth loved by Lorien'. Oh the innuendo. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andreth wrote:
Don't feel guilty about asking questions. We loves questions here, we do. There are several compulsive question answerers like myself and Nancy Brooke who jump on the opportunity to answer a question.

I was gonna say that ...

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HeartoftheNight



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, guys ... and girls. Oh bloody hell.
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