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 Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Fanfic Conventions |
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| sindohte wrote: | | 3. What is the source of the supposed bad blood between Elrond and Thranduil? Unless there is Version 1.5 of Lord of the Rings out there that I have not read, I am clueless as to why these two Elves would dislike each other. |
This is an old feud. It helps to remember that Elrond, despite the fact that he was descended from Luthien, placed himself with the Noldorin exiles (i.e., he served under Gil-Galad). Oropher, Thranduil's dad was an elf of Doriath and despised the Noldorin exiles.
When Doriath fell, Thranduil went east and founded his kingdom among the woodland elves because he "had no desire to leave Middle-earth, nor to be merged with the other Sindar of Beleriand, dominated by the Noldorin Exiles for whom the folk of Doriath had no love." (Unfinished Tales; check the index for "Oropher").
So, that was the beginning of the animosity between Thranduil and the Elrond/Galadriel contingent.
Unfinished Tales also says that in the second age, Oropher moved his kingdom north of the Gladden fields partly because "he resented the intrusions of Celeborn and Galadriel into Lorien."
During the War of the Last Alliance, Thranduil was there. He would have noticed that his woodland army had equipment and armor vastly inferior to that of the Noldorin army. He would also have noticed that when Oropher sounded a charge and led the woodland elves into the fray, Gil-Galad did not follow with his mighty army right away. The majority of the woodland elves -- including Oropher, Thranduil's dad -- were slaughtered.
Tolkien writes that after the War of the Last Alliance, "There was in Thranduil's heart a still deeper shadow. He had seen the horror of Mordor and could not forget it."
So there is loads of evidence pointing to a bitter, angry Thranduil who wasn't big pals with Elrond and Galadriel.
Doesn't necessarily make him a bad guy; he certainly had his reasons. |
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