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Andreth
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Tom Bombadil technically didn't even have to take the test. The ring represented industrialization, if you will, the fall of man to machine (or to items designed to enhance power instead of people just relying on their own natural power). Tom Bombadil was a spirit of nature in its simplest form, unaffected by industrialization. The ring didn't tempt Tom because he simply had no use for it. He was totally immune to any temptation the ring had to offer. He would be like a gay man or a eunuch as far as the One was concerned. And if she's as intuitive as she seems, she probably wouldn't even bother trying with him. She'd probably see it as a waste of her time. |
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sindohte

Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 1621 Location: Rubbing up against an Elf
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Poor Tom, he ain't gonna get no luv
And thank you for the information Anna. I will be hitting you up for some Tom Bombadil resources. My little brain has an idea or two about him. _________________ abandon thought, and let the dream descend... |
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NancyBrooke Challenge Admin
Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 160 Location: In a motel 6 by the airport
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| sindohte wrote: | | So why didn't Tom Bombadil pass the test? | Because I erroneously put him in the wrong category ...  _________________ NB Duchess of WHY TF Cant'chu Punctuate, First Duchess of F*&(ing &*ll yur comma placement sux!
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Viv Challenge Admin

Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Posts: 71 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| sindohte wrote: | | And once again, everything is not about SEX. Sheesh |
And I had such high expectations of a thread titled "Who Touched It?" ... |
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estellabrandybuck

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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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GypsieRose

Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 105 Location: Illinois, USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm curious: Why is only movie-Elrond listed as having passed the test? What does he do that book-Elrond didn't? And is book-Elrond considered to be "debatable," or what?
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NancyBrooke Challenge Admin
Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 160 Location: In a motel 6 by the airport
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:30 am Post subject: |
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I said that in reference to the scene where Elrond encourages Isildur to destroy the ring and guides him to Samath Naur (right? - neither books nor memory to hand, obviously). I figured, at that point, if he'd wanted it, Elrond could have made a play for it - scant feet away, no one around ...
I'm not comfortable with the idea that just because a character was near the ring, i.e. in the Fellowship or hanging about Rivendell, s/he would have been tempted or had an oppty to take the ring. _________________ NB Duchess of WHY TF Cant'chu Punctuate, First Duchess of F*&(ing &*ll yur comma placement sux!
Nazgul #3 in charge of ducking & sniggering
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sindohte

Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 1621 Location: Rubbing up against an Elf
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | | I'm not comfortable with the idea that just because a character was near the ring, i.e. in the Fellowship or hanging about Rivendell, s/he would have been tempted or had an oppty to take the ring. |
True. The Ring would be searching for an individual who had the greatest amount to gain by taking possession and who would also take her (since the Ring is a female in my story) back to Sauron. I see Gollum as being an accident in the Ring's quest to find her way home. Due to either his own inherent greed, becoming mentally unhinged after murdering Deagol, the Ring had little influence over Gollum, or because he was a simple (not stupid, rather not motivated by power) creature, the Ring could not get Gollum to leave his little hidey hole and put himself out in plain view where Sauron could find her again. So that is why the Ring spends so many years languishing away.
Nancy - in the movie version, I always think of my alternate ending to that scene. Elrond grabs Isildur and then throws both him and the Ring into the pit. That would have solved a lot of problems right there But that would that have been cold blooded murder or the right decision to make? _________________ abandon thought, and let the dream descend... |
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