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dolarabee
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 Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 5:23 pm Post subject: The History of Middle-earth |
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I got The Peoples of Middle-earth a couple of weeks ago and I'm wondering if someone else here has got any of the other books by Tolkien's son Christopher. Though it's full of interesting details, I know I can't afford to buy all of them (12?). So I'd like to know which others stand out...
Anyone has any suggestions?
Many thanks,
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Anyone who writes about elves would find a treasure trove in Morgoth's Ring. There's a lengthy section on the customs of elves (including marriage and family customs), plus the simply beautiful Debate of Finrod and Andreth.
Is it the Peoples of Middle-earth that has that long section on the Istari? I can't remember which book it's in, but that section is also chock full of good info.
Beyond the HoME series, there's also an atlas by Karen Wynn Fonstad (The Atlas of Middle-earth) that's really helpful for reckoning distances and geography in Middle-earth. (I've used it a lot in fic to determine, for instance, how long it'd take to ride a horse from Lorien to Orthanc and where Cuivienen was in relation to the rest of Middle-earth.) |
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JMac
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, definitely get Morgoth's Ring. I've got all of the books in the series and that's by far my favorite.
If you are interested in Tolkien's poetry & the Silmarrillion then you'd enjoy The Lays of Beleriand - plus it's cheap because it's out in a small paper back sized. lol. |
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dolarabee
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| JMac wrote: | | - plus it's cheap because it's out in a small paper back sized. lol. |
Nah, one thing I learned since I moved here is that no book is cheap in the land of Oz... 30 bucks a pop for paperback is not what I would call affordable when there are twelve of them.
But thanks you two for your help in regards to the Elves. Any of those books on Men?
do.
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JMac
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Didn't notice your location when I was posting or I would've kept my mouth shut about that.  I have a pen pal in NZ who I've bought books on occassion since they're so expensive over there. lol.
Hmm..any men you've got in mind in particular that you wanna know about? Unfinished Tales has more stories about men, than any of the HoMe series. But you've probably got it already. |
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Maram68
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I am eagerly taking notes here!
I have read only LOTR and I am working my way through the Silmarillion. Bought it in spanish, but I hope to get it it english too sometime in the future.
Whenever I get the chance of buying more books on the net, I shall look forward to your suggestions ... keep it up!  |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:46 am Post subject: |
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There is a summary of each HoME volume available on the Boromir_fanfiction yahoo group.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/boromir_fanfiction/
It's in the files section, and was posted by Tay/Powzie/Filig whom some of you may know from Henneth Annun etc. She is a big proponent of HoME and encourages reading them for a deeper understanding of all things LOTR etc.
I, on the other hand, am not a big proponent of the HoME, mostly because I think my head would explode if I had to assimilate even more info about that already fully realized world!
Nancy |
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Well I'd say they're all worth having- you don't have to buy them all at once. But if you want reccomendations:
 Book of Lost Tales part 1 and 2
The Lays of Beleriand
Morgoth's Ring
I think those are the best, apart from Peoples of Middle-earth. But it also depends on what you personally prefer- things about the First Age or things about the Third Age.
I take it that you already have the (Silmarillion and) Unfinished Tales? Also very much worth reading. Enjoy!
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The essay on the Istari is in The Unifinished Tales, which also has a lot in about Numenor and a long chapter on Galadriel and Celeborn.
I started reading the HoME, but I've got halfway through the forth one and ground to a halt. I think it's just too much to take in. The best thing I would do if find a good book shop and have a skim through a few and see what covers the areas you are interested in. As you've already pointed out already the Laws and Customs of the Eldar (LACE) essay is in Morgoth's Ring, which I haven't got to yet.
ooh one more thought. I've found it's cheaper to buy all these books in twos from Amazon than go to a book shop and get them individually if that's any help to people. 
Take care peeps
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Leila
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i have a distance question.
How long would it take for an Elf on horseback to get from Mirkwood to Rivendell, and then from Rivendell to right outside of the Shire? 
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| Leila wrote: | i have a distance question.
How long would it take for an Elf on horseback to get from Mirkwood to Rivendell, and then from Rivendell to right outside of the Shire? |
Depends on the animal. Is he on a horse, an elf-steed or a Meara?
Rivendell to the Shire is around 400 miles (Atlas of ME) and roughly the same distance is between Mirkwood and Rivendell.
A Rohirrim horse can make around 6.7 mph, with elf-steeds being slightly faster (around 7-8 mph) while Shadowfax zips along at a steady 20 mph (this is all day running)
Multiply by number of hours a day you want the horse running, divide by 800 miles (roughly) and there's your time.
All of this comes from the Atlas of ME, BTW.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. That answers my question. Very helpful.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:01 am Post subject: book suggestion |
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| definitely Morgoth's ring. However, The Silmarillion is also useful reference if you can't find MR. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:31 am Post subject: |
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You can get MR at Amazon.com. I haven't though because it costs $20 something. Can't afford that right now. And can't seem to find it ANYWHERE else!
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