[Andreth]

[SilverMoonLady]

Going to revive this old thread, rather than start a new one, as my questions were indeed nearly all answered here, save one:

Where, when, how definately is it established that Legolas looses his mother?

Thanks:)

[Panneth]

I don't think it is at all. We don't know anything about Legolas' mother.

[BittenBuggy]

Thats right, for all we know, Thranduil could have had an affair with Sauron and produced his own bouncing baby boy!

[SilverMoonLady]

[Elvenesse]

Nothing is written about his mother. She doesn't appear in the Hobbit (but then again neither does Legolas - and he definitely existed), so you can do as you please. She could be alive the whole time, in Valinor or in the Halls of Mandos.

However, is anything known about Thranduil after he meets Celeborn and changes the name of Mirkwood?

[phoenixqueen]

Nice thread that you people have going here! Since Leggy is my favorite elf (followed by Elrond, and then the twins) I'm enjoying readind this!

I'll admit most of my visions of Legolas come from watching Orlando play him in the movies, so I've always pictured him as blonde with blue eyes. As far as his age goes, 2931 seems reasonable to me. He's obviously still young (in terms of the elves), it makes sense to me that he was probably of the same generation as Elladan and Elrohir, and he also had to have been born after the Last Alliance, so it all kind of comes together. *shrugs* I don't much care about the nit-picky details and random references that Tolkien dropped here and there.

Has anyone here read the fanfic series "The Mellon Chronicles" by Cassia and Siobhan? OMG those are the best! For anyone who doesn't know of them, they are stories about what could have happened between Aragorn and Legolas in the past, pre-FotR. I mean, think about the Council of Elrond scene from the movie. Legolas probably wouldn't have known who Aragorn really was unless they had been friends in the past, and he defended Aragorn from Boromir. Also, how in the heck would Aragorn have convinced the elves to keep Gollum imprisoned, unless he knew some of them very well. Why not make it Legolas? Oh, and also remember that Legolas stayed in Middle-Earth until Aragorn's death, which is something that could also be called a sign of friendship between them. That's the premise that Cassia and Siobhan are working off of. If anyone hasn't read them, I suggest you go and do so! They are amazing stories, and for anyone who likes elf and ranger owie stories, these definitely qualify! the site where you can find them is:

www.aragorn-legolas.5u.com

They are also posted on FF.Net, but I definitely recommed reading them on the above page.

Getting off track here....

As for what son Legolas is, I always pictured him as either the heir or the second son. It is true that heirs were often sent as envoys, as a sign of trust and also to give them valuable experience, especially in negotiation. Legolas also says "we" when describing how they kept Gollum, which leads me to believe that he was among the guards that were keeping an eye on him, possibly the head of the guards, as he was the prince, which is good reason as to why he was sent to Rivendell.

Thranduil couldn't have known that Legolas would be chosen (or volunteer, depending on if you go off the movie or the book) for the Quest.

I think that's everything for now, so I'll sign off for the time being and keep watching this great topic for more info on our favorite elf!

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[Elb]

The Mellon Chronicles are wonderful, superb, delightful things. Elf torture!

In one of the original drafts for LotR, Legolas is mentioned alot more. He has a lovely little argument with gandalf (a snippet of which is still in LotR), it is Legolas who kills the Watcher in the Water, Legols is wounded in Moria and has to crawl on his hands and knes acrposs the Bridge of Khazad-dum (one of my favourite scene!), and many more scenes in Lorien, with some excellent snipes at Gimli. In one very early version, it was Legolas and Gimli that weretaken captive by the Uruk-hai.

I think we know so little abut Legolas is because although Tolkien loved elves, and was well on the way to making this elf into a hero of the book, the public and the publichers wanted hobbits (stupid people), and so Tolkien had to cut out alot of Legolas. One thing we do know; legolas designed Faramir's garden after the War of the Ring.

[phoenixqueen]

[Aerin]

I was just thinking the same thing. Where do you guys come up with this stuff...

[BittenBuggy]

I was watching Return of the King this afternoon and came to a new revelation about Legolas. (New for me - not new for everybody else )

It was the scene when Aragorn had just given his speech, and the line 'I bid you stand, Men of the West'

Well, its all about Men. And then you have Gimli look up at Legolas and they have their little 'moment.' And it dawned on me that they all thought they would die there. Legolas, who was immortal, was going to die for the sake of the race of Men. To be willing to give up eternity for something that would seem so clearly insignificant to an elf who is going to the Undying Lands just struck me as encredible.

So, I appriciate Legolas on a whole new level now. I loved him before, but only because of Orli.

[DarkElfChilde]

I remember seeing those drafts at this one site called, Axe and Bow fan fic archive when I was searching for info on Legolas a year ago.