[SpaceWeavil]

[Rous]

What can you expect from kids? I think ff.net is just a garnering place for reviews. I am not really sure why I started posting there. Outside of the LOTR section, I have not really read anything that could keep my interest, whether due to content or spelling errors. I am so anal about that. I even tend to disregard reviews and forum posting if they are too hard to read. I can understand occational mistakes. I have been *gasp* known to make them.The only exception? Foreign readers. I feel it only fair to make allowances for them. However, if you live in the states, do not subject me to your poor communication skills.

[phoenixqueen]

I can honestly admit that I am one of the few lucky ones. All of my stories have been posted to ff.net, and I have never yet had a flame for any of them. (I now have 20 stories posted there.) I have had a few of those odd reviews where it seems like the reviewer couldn't spell to save their life, but other than that, I've been extraordinarily lucky.

There was one instance where I was deeply insulted, and it was for a friend's story, not one of mine!

For any of you that are familiar with the story "Pirates in the Fellowship" by psycho elf, you may be able to understand where I am coming from with this, since it is definitely an AU/crossover.

I am psycho elf's beta-reader, have been since she started writing that particular story, and we've both put in a lot of time and effort into the story. A lot of the times, she asks me to write certain scenes that she is not fully confident of her ability to do justice to, especially if it is angst-heavy or involves an elf that is NOT Legolas.

Well, about six months ago she recieved two reviews from someone calling himself "The River City Kid", and they were flames to the extreme, completely derogitory (and I can't spell today it seems!) and they offended us both. This flamer called her a drunk hooker, a fat, disgusting fan-girl, and an unworthy writer, one who was insane for thinking that she could blend PotC and LotR. He also commented that she really only had two reviews, his, because fangirl reviews didn't count. We both got a rather good laugh over that, since she actually has 1097 reviews, and every single one of them is begging her to continue and write more, stating that they love her story.

My friend was so insulted that she stared a petition to get this flamer removed from ff.net, and actually succeeded, because he removed his single story from the site and has not been heard from since. I was just as insulted, because I am psycho elf's beta reader, and I considered (and still do) it to be a story worthy of time, attention, and care, so to flame her, was to flame me, because I had also written a great deal of that story, and given psycho elf a lot of ideas that she eventually used.

I have to admit that that was the only real experience with flamers that I have had...but on a more humorous note, I went to check out The RCK's story...he had about 30 reviews...and EVERY SINGLE ONE was a flame, telling him not to bother writing such trash as he did, since his story was basically an attempt to trash women. (I believe one sentence in his story said that women were only good for house-keeping and child-bearing.)

So anyway, Forest, your friend is not alone. I know a lot of people that have gotten flames. and you can't give them even a grain of sand's worth of comparison. Yes, they hurt, but you can also try to look at it from the humorous perspective, and see if you can find something to laugh about it. That's a good way to avoid finding yourself questioning your writing skills. A beta always helps, but ultimately, you are the best judge of your own writing.

[FallingIntoStrangers]

Ugh, I know the feeling. I use to post fan-fic stories on adultfanfic and I got one really harsh review that just came out of nowhere and seemed more like she was attacking me personally rather than reviewing/critiquing the story/writing. Sometimes it makes me wonder... ya know... if maybe I knew her, cuz I had some personal id on my profile (city/state/alma mater..etc). Anyhoo, I took my stories down and wiped my profile of everything. Some reviwers just leave a flame cuz they don't like you for whatever inane little insignificant reason....

Yeh, I know, by doing that, she had won... but still... I didn't like how it made me feel, and didn't want to leave myself open to further abuse.

Sort of like LiveJournal.com. I use to have a journal there, and used it for a year, until a time when someone I thought was a friend was talking smack about me and I told her I no longer wnated to be her firend, and every person she knew posted either on my LJ or on theirs about what a 'crazy b**ch i was and to F-off and go to H**l", needless to say, I canceled ny account and haven't been back since.

I really hate to say it, but when people turn on their computer their IQ and maturity level drops by 100 points... for the most part... Certain sites attract certain people, and I have learned that lesson the hard way.

I know which to avoid from now and it has saved me a lot of heartache. Sites like ff.net and LJ.com and all that, cater to a certain mentality and attitude, mostly disaffected hostile youths who no longer bully at school or wotrk, but bully on the internet to make thier pathetic petty little pathos seem significant somehow, and thus bolster their sad little egos.

I have dealt with creeps like that my whole life at school and at work. But I don't have to put up with it on the net, not anymore. So long as I don't go to certain palces, I know that a mature, intelligent, thoughtful and respectful adult such as myself can feel at home on certain sites (this one, and checkmated.com).

Reaally the best thing to do is avoid snarky little idiiots like that who tend to overwhelm one site and ruin it (ff.net) and stick to places where mature people visit (not mature by age, just by attitude). There are lots of places where 13-30 year olds get along and act mature and respectful, and lots of places where 13-30 year olds act like they're 2.

So let them act like tards on their cilque-y little sites...and the rest of us normal people will relax here.

I may even post my fan-fic here if ever I stop being lazy... heh heh heh...

Oh, and I have the poochy-mom-belly too...and the saggy-mom-boobs, and the floppy-mom-thighs.... sigh ... amazing what giving brith can do to your once perfect figure..... oh well... the little nippers are worth it....

[Yavanie]

[Rous]

[FallingIntoStrangers]

Well, normal as in the sense that we don't threaten to kill another member for liking one pariring of chracters that they don't like... (i.e the Ron/Hermione shippers versus the Harry/Hermione shippers at some sites.... sheesh these people are nuts... seriously... don't go there.... they get testy...)

No really, I have seen some pretty nasty words exchanged on fanfic sites... it can get pretty brutal... over the most inane little things too...

My daughter turned 2 in August, so any parent knows what kind of trouble I have to put up with... she has flooded the bathroom 3 times in one week.... *pounds head* Oh I love her..... /insert thinly veiled sarcasm here/.......... LOL!

[Yavanie]

Falling,

I have three boys, 9, 6 and 2. I can SO sympathize what you are going through! There are days they would be "free to a good home"! LOL

[Scribe]

[Rous]

I had always thought that boys would be easier than girls. But, NOOOooooo. THEY ARE NOT! *looks around and straightens up herself* Sorry. Experience screaming. Nope, the girls were bad, but the boys are more problem. But, at least the girls turned out okay. One just got married, and the other is in a good relationship. So, for what more could a mom ask? (That the son-in-law had an up to date green card, maybe??????) Those moments are killin' me.

[dolarabee]

[Maram68]

[Maram68]

[Ilmatar]

I have never been flamed, and I never flame, but I have seen some very worrying cases lately. I sometimes read reviews for stories in FF.net (I have no life) and I have noticed a strange fenomenon: people who do not wtite stories and only leave very hurtful and personal flames. The stories they flame are not usually that great, to be honest, but that is no excuse for bashing the hell out of anyone. Very often these flamed authors are in their early teens, and find the flames so hurtful that they take their stories off. I think that it is only natural for a 13 year old girl to write a self-insertion Sue. I know I would have done that at that age.

Another strange thing is that there are authors who get so annoyed by Legolas´popularity and his fans that they have started to hate his character. My eyes almost popped out of my head as I found this author´s profile who had written stories called "Die Legolas die" and "Die Legolas Die 2". Rhe reason why he had done them was to convert "brainless fangirls". Oh and the sequel was written because the original story did not enrage enough fans.

I suppose what I am trying to say here is, that some people have started to take fan fiction too seriously.

[DarkElfChilde]

That kid that made the Die Legolas Die stories...wow, he must be jealous to act like that.


Your currently thinking evil thoughts elf,


Dark Elf Childe