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This is off the top of my head but I think that was George Wallace. He ran on segregation. It was a time when nearly all of the Southern vote was white. A pretty dark time in our history. It was so bad, there was a plan for the military to invade Alabama in 1963. You read that right, 1963 not 1863.
http://www.al.com/news/mobileregister/index.ssf?/base/news/109860944011800.xml
There was an attempt on Wallace's life
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In 1963? You're right, that's scary.
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There was serious talk of a Second Secession.
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Viv
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Hathor wrote: | | Just takes time, I suppose. And I vaguely remember being told that an Independent candidate took a lot of Southern states once? |
Millard Fillmore took 21.5% in 1856.
In 1860, Breckinridge took 18.1%, Douglas 29.5%, Bell 12.6%, and Lincoln a measly 39.9%.
William Howard Taft took 23.2% in 1912.
George Wallace took 13.5% in 1968. (That would be the segregation dude, though Strom Thurmond took a tiny percentage back in the 30s, also pro-segregation.)
Ross Perot took 18.9% in 1992 and 8.4% in 1996.
We've had a lot of third-party contenders, just never consistently the same third party.
I, uh, dig third parties.  |
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DYK that in 1860 Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot in some Southern States...
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inglor
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There still is a way to vote everyday in this country. Vote with your money. Watch who is sponsoring things. For instance, if a news program says something you don't like, boycott the sponsors. If enough people in this country voted with their money, something could be done. Office Depot and recycled paper is one of the best examples.
It's small and piddly but you can do it everyday and if you get enough people, you can make a difference.
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Yavanie
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Regarding the Terminator, yes currently you have to be a US born citizen to run for the office of President. However, there has been much talk lately to ammend that to be someone who has been in this country and a citizen of this country for some long length of time.
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Actors being president  I just don't know ...
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Amlee
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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When Wallace ran for President was when he was shot in Memphis, Tn and lost the use of his legs. Many thought that he had a real good chance of winning.
I am not for changing it where just anyone can become President. Something about that just bothers me. |
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Texasgirl
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hey hey hey!
i agree with both sides - if you're not a true born american, but you're loyal and would be a good president, you should be allowed to run. but on the other hand, their should have to be major tests before you should be cleared for something like that. i mean, we can't just have any person running our beautiful america....
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Texasgirl
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yavanie, it was nice hearing from a fellow texan...hope we can talk more!
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Hathor
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But surely the democratic process should make sure people who are uunsuitable not be President anyway?
... just a thought.
And, to be honest, I always thought the President didn't have that much power at home. In reality it's just a military postition - Commander in Cheif of the armies? Domestically, he's an important political figure, but still subserviant in some ways to Congress, yes?
(I have spent far too much of my life comparing the Prime Minister and the President. Help me...)
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