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Moralanqua
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 Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:32 pm Post subject: Geocities Help please! |
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Hiya!
My personal website it on yahoo geocities and i want to give it a makeover. Ive seen sites from some of you where you have inserted frames? I was wondering how to do that?
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Viv
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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My site is framilicious, but I don't really like it. Frames are a pain in the patooty. But if you want to do them, there's some nice info on webmonkey
You're also welcome to view source on any of my files and filch whatever you need. (I'm not claiming my code is elegant!) |
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Moralanqua
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Viv-alicious to the rescue!
Thanks hun! 
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Thuriniel
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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I was going to do frames for my site ... but I decided they were not worth the trouble. Maybe some day ... for now I'm very happy with the look of my site, achieved mostly thanks to tables. Let me know if I can help you in any way.
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Moralanqua
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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 I cant do frames! I followed the chicken dinner thing and can recreate that but i cant get it to do what i want! Im stoopid!
Thury - i really like the way you have your tag board and text in one column, how did you do that?
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Thuriniel
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I just sent you an email with the instructions ... let me know if there are any problems!
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Mora - a bit of serious advice, don't use frames! They do make editing easier when you have a static menu / header etc, but they get very messy, search engines don't like them and you can get in a pickle when someone accesses a sub-frame (if you know what I mean). And when someone resizes the browser, all kinds of hell breaks lose.
Ideally, look for a free host that allows server-side includes for the repeating stuff (although I'm not aware of any off the top of my head).
If you can't get the frames to work, make sure you don't use the <BODY> tag - a common mistake! Start simple, just do the framset and two frames (no <HEAD> or anything else) then build around it. Hope that makes sense!
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Robbie wrote: | | Ideally, look for a free host that allows server-side includes for the repeating stuff (although I'm not aware of any off the top of my head). |
I'm on the lookout for a free (or moderately priced) host that supports php. If anybody knows one, please give me a shout.
Mora, do you have Dreamweaver? You can set up templates and simple scripts in Dreamweaver that do essentially what frames do (the files are a little bigger, but space isn't an issue for most personal archives). I had a templated site for a long time and loved it.
I don't know how to hand-code templates, tho.  (I'm such a hack...) |
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There are two free hosts I know that support PHP. But they are rather liberal with the pop-up ads... Also, a host that allows anyone access to PHP allows a few problems - the ability to abuse a server is relatively easy and needs to be checked - somethign "free" hosts are not able to do (trust me on this - I also help look after a free host - www.NexusWebs.net - and it takes a lot of time, even without allowing PHP!)
PMing you with an alternative solution - afterall, I sell webspace!
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Hi
I have used a frames layout in two sites I manage, however, the index page isn't in frames. We haven't had any trouble with engines finding those sites. Another way to get around the pop ups on free sites is to buy your own domain name. The company I use sets stuff up so that basically, your entire site is sucked into this 'virtual frame'. My own site physically sits in Geocities too. If I give you the domain name, no popups, if I give you the long form...popups. I haven't had any troubles with updating or uploading the framed sites...but then I'm using Cute FTP and uploading to space directly onto the clients host server.
Hope you get it figured out, if not, you can PM me and maybe I can send you code to use if needed.
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Moralanqua
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:59 am Post subject: |
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I dont have any additional software! i make my graphics with gif and paint then i upload them to geocitied. From there, i can place EVERYTHING with its pagemanager - like placing papershapes on paper! Its so easy. I dont use any HTML or anything.
Im now trying to do some to get some fancier stuff done. The frames idea has fallen thru as ive finalised my webdesign and dont need them.
Thanks guys! Youve been outstanding!
I have one final question!
Ive seen folks like Miriel who have their fiction on a page. That page has a background and art and nav buttons.
I can do it without the fic and i can do it blank with the fic - how do i HTML it all together?
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Thuriniel
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| Moralanqua wrote: | I have one final question!
Ive seen folks like Miriel who have their fiction on a page. That page has a background and art and nav buttons.
I can do it without the fic and i can do it blank with the fic - how do i HTML it all together? |
I'm not sure exactly what you mean ... but you can try visiting this page and this might give you the questions to your answers.
http://www.pagetutor.com/pagetutor/makapage/lesson02.html
Also, I found this website over the weekend with lots of celtic clipart ... I thought that you might be interested.
http://www.celtic-clipart.co.uk/
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That site is perfect and answers my question. I have the celt clip site alrady but thank you for thinking of me!
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You guys are great! 
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!I'm reviving this thread since now I'm the one who needs help ...
I'm trying to make my site so that the background picture doesn't move, I only want the text and links to move when you use the scroll bar. I got the desired effect in Dreamweaver, but the moment I upload the page to Geocities, the background moves along with the text.
Can anyone tell me what's going on? I wonder if I'm using the wrong coding ...
Thanks !
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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In your code, you have | Code: | BODY {
scrollbar-face-color: 996699;
scrollbar-highlight-color: E5DAE8;
scrollbar-3dlight-color: 996699;
scrollbar-darkshadow-color: 000000;
scrollbar-shadow-color: 000000;
scrollbar-arrow-color: 000000;
scrollbar-track-color: e5dae8;
} |
You want to change that to | Code: | BODY {
scrollbar-face-color: 996699;
scrollbar-highlight-color: E5DAE8;
scrollbar-3dlight-color: 996699;
scrollbar-darkshadow-color: 000000;
scrollbar-shadow-color: 000000;
scrollbar-arrow-color: 000000;
scrollbar-track-color: e5dae8;
background-image: url('Graphics/ivypurpleII.jpg');
background-color: #000000;
background-attachment: fixed;
background-repeat: repeat;
margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
} |
And then get rid of everything in your <BODY> tag...
That should work (not tested)
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