[NancyBrooke]

[Amlee]

LOL yes that seemed to be the answer to it all.

But I don't think it was just the meds. I think the meds were the breaking point for everyone. Sawyer had been an ass for a while and he could have made things simple by just saying I found the book on the beach and I don't have the meds. He pushed their buttons until they acted.

[SilverMoonLady]

Yup, he wants to be beaten because that's all he thinks he deserves... very sad. And you will admit, no one has given him either the chance or the incentive to change....

[Amlee]

Ah but here is the thing for me. If someone was stranded on an island with people that didn't know you or your past. It would be a chance to change. In Sawyers case a chance to change or to do better, but he hasn't done that. It would be like starting with a clean slate. You can't help or change anyone that doesn't want it and Sawyer doesn't seem to want that.

[queenoftheshire]

(No!! I had everything typed up and now I have to retype it thanks to my ever-crashing computer!!)

Ok. Here's my theory. Keep in mind, this is just produced out of my twisted mind.

I think the island is basically Purgatory (sp?)
Or...for those who aren't of a Christian faith (I'm Catholic...I'm not sure if the other denominations believe in Purgatory. {???}),basically a place between Heaven and Hell. It means that you will go to heaven some day, but your soul needs to become purified somehow in order to enter Heaven.

Anyhoo...Here's my reasoning...

This was all sparked by Sayid's line 'We should have never survived.'
Well, there's a chance they really didn't, but they think they did. It's kind of a Sixth Sense-esque twist.


We basically have our very own 'God' on the island, in the form of Locke. He's served as the Daddy/Mentor figure of the group already. I'm not saying he's actually God because he did show some very human elements in the flashback.
If they are all, indeed, in Purgatory, that would explain Locke being able to walk again. Because they've left their physical bodies, Locke's disability would totally dissappear.
But then again, that might also mean that Claire would not be pregnant.
But, if Claire died, that means that the baby is dead also. That's a pretty grey area.

To quote Dom:
"The island represents everybody's fears."

He also has a quote saying he believes Purgatory is a place where you're always reminded of your faults and fears. I suspect that the monster is whatever you fear the most. Essentially, it's the fear of the unknown.
All of the castaways have something that scares them out of their wits, something they truly hate but can't get past, or something they haven't discovered they need to overcome.

1) We've got Charlie the drug-addict who doesn't want to cope with the fact that his dream is over.

2) Claire's a young single mother. She's probably got enough fears about this baby to spread around, between trying to care for it and how she's going to deliver on this island.

3) Jack has had serious issues with his late father. So between trying to help all these people, keeping poor little Kate from snogging him () and that, he can't deal. His parents forced him to become a doctor, something that he didn't necessarily want to become.

4) Kate's a criminal. We don't know what she's done, or if she was wrongfully accused, but it's plaguing her.

5) Sayid can't forgive himself for what he did in the Republican Guard. He has a woman waiting for him, so he's also trying to deal with being seperated from her.

6) Sawyer hates himself for what he's become. He was forced to become what he's always hated, and now he won't let himself be forgiven. Sawyer wants people to hate him because of this.

7) Shannon expects everything to be laid out in front of her. She has not concern for other people, but there is a good person in her somewhere.

There are way too many examples to list. And because JJ has already said none of the main characters are safe, we might be introduced to a new character with new problems at any time.

The castaways are all banding together to overcome these moguls together. Claire and Charlie seem to be this little gleam of hope for one another. If what I think is going to happen happens, Claire and Charlie's problems will be solved. But then again, JJ Abram's is the king at throwing his viewers for a loop.


Now this part IS A SPOILER...SO SCROLL DOWN A WAYS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IT.
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A few sources have stated that one of the main castaways was not on the plane in the beginning. I haven't even begun to try solving this riddle, because I really can't think of who would not have been on the plane. It might be that whatever new character JJ is going to introduce will help solve this puzzle but as for now I'm stumped.
Locke is too obvious.
Any guesses...?

One other thing. My friends and I have been suspecting Jack is gay. Any thoughts?
We were thinking that it would be another element of tolerance and would also help shrug off that 'Leading Lady/Leading Man Romance'







Haha. This is a subject I could talk on and on about for hours. I've tried to really study the characters and plot since the pilot was broadcasted, because it really is very different from anything I've ever seen on television.


Just invite me too and I'll be happy to oblige. But I think that's enough for one day. So rest your tired little eyes.

[Chelsea]

Lex, I've seen this and I told you that I agree with just about everything. I have my own ideas about things, but I want to see how things progress before I say too much

[Amlee]

I don't know if I believe in that theory. I have heard it several times, but to me I just don't buy it. It's to easy. But a ton of people have that same thought.

Now one of the best theories is that of white noise (which is going to be one hell of a scary movie!) and a vortex. The recording of the radio signal being that of white noise and then the front half of the plane being sucked into a vortex of some sort. Kind of like that WW !! movie with Martin Sheen. Great movie. I think it's called Final Contact.

[queenoftheshire]

I've heard theories of some sort of vortex and I don't like it too much.
It makes the series a little to sci-fi for my liking.
But I don't know if JJ Abram's is doing anything like that because religion might now be a good subject to base this on.
But I do think they might all be dead or something along those lines. Sayid's line is just too much to pass up.

Also, in the preview for next week's show, Sayid goes out on his own. It looks to me like someone is preparing to torture him, so that definitely at least backs up my idea that the island reflects the castaways' fears.

[SilverMoonLady]

The only thing about the Purgatory theory that makes me doubt it is that it is a christian concept, and not everyone on the island is necessarily christian. So to put them all in purgatory would affirm that the christian model is the "right" one, which would be less than politic, especially as divided as the country already is.

Now the concept of them being somehow put in an environment that they are spiritually/psychically reacting with to work through their demons is pretty neat, though it doesn't require the interference of "God" or "magic" or "spirits" to do that: just a place of stress/deprivation and the mental time to allow the subconscious to do its job stage front instead of merely in dreams.

And I think there is someone out in the jungle that has survived a previous stranding, they have "gone native", and all this noise and nonsense is a defense strategy. There may well be large and nasty wildlife out there though. Think experiment gone wild, a la Dr Moreau...

But one could speculate all day... and I must at least pretend to work a bit today

[queenoftheshire]

I would like it to be like a sci-fi warped afterlife though. I was really just using Purgatory as some sort of reference.
Meh.

Ok. This is driving me nuts.

Does anybody know the title/artist who made this song?

I haven't heard it in a while and I've forgotten.

PS: It does have a semi-political theme for the flash movie but I didn't post this for that. I just came across it and when it played I was struggling to remember the name.
Anyhoo, just felt that would be a good thing to say seeing as it's a pretty sensitive issue around the boards (and generally everywhere else.).

[dolarabee]

[Texasgirl]

[Sorcia]

So....did anyone catch the Dec. 1st eppie of LOST? Lots of Charlie moments.....what a sweetheart he is! That line about 'doing each others hair'...I did laugh outloud, very cute. Queenoftheshire, looks like that highlighted spoiler bit was bang on. Very interesting twist!
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OK, so both Charlie and Claire are kidnapped by that guy NOT on the manifest WHO I think is that French woman's son, Alex. Anyone?? Also, liked the bit showing next weeks eppie and Charlie leaving a trail to follow using bits of his shirt...sorta like the Hobbits(well Pippin)leaving a trail for Aragorn to follow after the being taken by the Uriks.
This sure is one weird island.

[queenoftheshire]

Yeah.
That's who I thought Ethan was too.

I think I'm going to stick a Spoiler Warning on the board title so we can talk freely.


Have you noticed all of the white/black icons in here??
Locke's black and white backgammon pieces.
The two stones they found next to the bodies...
And Locke's eyes in Claire's dream!!



PS: JJ Abrams...I'd have your babies any day.

[Viv]