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| You know we'd be facing a lot of criticism or specifically me regarding what I've been letting through on AU and I think Viv, that I really like your description of it the most. I think that in future, I might keep that in mind when sifting through the AU stuff although the desire to use the quote regarding Baby Eru weeping is going to be overwhelming when I write rejection notices. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| SpaceWeavil wrote: | | NancyBrooke wrote: | | Viv wrote: | I think it's important to distinguish intentional AU from research lapses ...
In those cases, I tend to leave reviews along the lines of "This might be more interesting if you changed the character names and posted it somewhere as original fiction." |
Your extraordinary tack never ceases to amaze me, Viv. I'll never know how you do that (let alone how I might  ) |
That is definitely one of the best-phrased reviews I have heard   |
and yet hits harder than a 20# sledgehammer...
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Viv
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Scribe wrote: | | You know we'd be facing a lot of criticism or specifically me regarding what I've been letting through on AU and I think Viv, that I really like your description of it the most. I think that in future, I might keep that in mind when sifting through the AU stuff although the desire to use the quote regarding Baby Eru weeping is going to be overwhelming when I write rejection notices. |
Lordy hell, do you have to read everything that is submitted to the site? Do you have help? Do you need it? Sounds overwhelming...
(I am embarassed to say that I filched the Baby Eru line from someone, or rather several people. It's a common phrase on Deleterius (or used to be, when I was a member). So I claim no credit for the witticism.  |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Someone on that Deleterius said that about my first lotr fic. I was thinking "Good lord! This is my first fic in this fandom! Cut me some slack!" Course, I kept my cool and went on my way to delete the story, which was an AU I might add, but forgot to put it in my notes...my bad.  I'm glad someone pointed out that Deleterius page because it didn't take me long to take that story off of ff.net...wasn't really good anyway now that I think about it...so all in all, it saved me from some kind of embarrassment. 
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| DarkElfChilde wrote: | Someone on that Deleterius said that about my first lotr fic. I was thinking "Good lord! This is my first fic in this fandom! Cut me some slack!" Course, I kept my cool and went on my way to delete the story, which was an AU I might add, but forgot to put it in my notes...my bad. I'm glad someone pointed out that Deleterius page because it didn't take me long to take that story off of ff.net...wasn't really good anyway now that I think about it...so all in all, it saved me from some kind of embarrassment.
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At the risk of showing my ignorance, what is Deleterius?
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Spacey - we can be ignorance-showers together. I have no idea. 
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SpaceWeavil
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, it's one of those livejournal things. (I am so determined not to study contracts tonight that I googled )
http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=deleterius
I just checked some of their archives, to see if 'Bodysnatcher' was on there.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Viv wrote: | I think it's important to distinguish intentional AU from research lapses (or blatant disregard of the source material). AU is intentional alteration of canonical plot or characters, usually stated in an author note at the beginning of a story.
Often, I see stories where canon is just dumped in preference of ... something else (elves having wings; Legolas going to Kindergarten, Sauron romancing the pants off of Galadriel). In those cases, I tend to leave reviews along the lines of "This might be more interesting if you changed the character names and posted it somewhere as original fiction." Those kinds of reviews are generally nicer than, "Your [lack of] canon knowledge makes the Baby Eru weep."
Those canon-deprived stories really shouldn't, in my opinion, be categorised alongside thoughtful extrapolations of what might have happened if Bilbo had killed Gollum in The Hobbit. |
*points up* What she said. That is the most excellent definition of AU I've heard. Alternate Universe isn't internet speak for 'too lazy to look something up'.
 I am so happy to know I'm not the only paranoid person around here. |
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DarkElfChilde
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:20 am Post subject: |
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I'm just glad that everyone here actually helps people improve rather than what they do over in Deleterius...to be honest, I was about to give up writing fan fic, or writing period. 
But, do I listen to myself when it comes to writing? No.
Anyway, off topic here...where's the topic? Oh yes...
AU, I read a lot of those and ones that's aren't AU, and I have to say that a good AU is when the characters act themselves, and when the author writes a good twist to keep me coming back to read more.
- DEC
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