[Leila]

What's his name? I think I once read something about him, but I'm not sure. And I think his name may be Or something but no clue. Anyone know? And I also want to know if he was ever king of Mirkwood back when it was called Greenwood the Great. I think I read he was before the first war (when the Last Allience happened) and was killed, no clue though if it's true or something someone made up for a story.

[Leila]

Somebody?.......Anybody?

[Panneth]

Thranduil's father was called Oropher. He was a Sindar elf who came and led the Silvan people that lived in Greenwood the Great. He died in battle in Mordor at Dagorlad before the siege of Barad-Dur and the fall of Sauron.

Incidently, he wasn't a major fan of Galadriel or Celeborn.

There's more information than this in the Sil and the Unfinished Tales if you're interested.

Em

[Moralanqua]

From encyclopedia of arda (http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/)

According to some sources, the father of Thranduil and grandfather of Legolas, who ruled a great realm of Silvan Elves in Greenwood the Great (later to be called Mirkwood). He went to the War of the Last Alliance, where he was slain with two-thirds of his army, but his son Thranduil survived and returned to rule his father's woodland kingdom.

(This account is from Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth. It does not sit easily with a statement in Appendix B to The Lord of the Rings that Thranduil was one of the Sindar who travelled eastward from Lindon to found forest realms. These two accounts aren't completely contradictory, but they are awkward to reconcile.)


We have no date of birth for Oropher, but he does seem to have been among the wave of Sindarin Elves who travelled eastward across Middle-earth before the year II 1000. He doesn't appear in any of the accounts of the First Age, which suggests (though does not prove) that he was born in the first millennium of the Second Age.

The best info i found was here: http://www.flex.net/~layton2/encyc/frames/encycfrms.htm
Too much to post here, go look!

[Leila]

Thnx!!!

[Panneth]

Just a suggestion, but is there someway of cobbling together some sort of list of really good online Tolkien references for things like this?

It would make life so much easier if we could just go to a place with the answers rather than have to wait for someone to reply to posts, unless of course it's something tricky, or complicated. Or one of those annoying times where Tolkien contradicts himself half a dozen times...

Any thoughts?

[Viv]

Some folks have already cobbled:

The Encyclopedia of Arda

There are mistakes in the encyclopedia, but by and large, it's a great resource. And of course, this forum is a good place to clear up any lingering questions.