[Texasgirl]

ah... let me clarify...the actor-glorfindel does look girly, but the sandro kopp one is the one i described in my previous post. i don't know - it's just *shudder* NOT my picture of glorfy

TG

[Alassante]

OK - I personally am an offender of some of this stuff. I only have one story posted here but on another site (I found it before this one) I have quite a few. At least one redhaired, busty elf that everyone is attracted too (By everyone I mean - all the hot guys, Eomer, Aragorn, Legolas, and/or Boromir). And of course I go into long details of her clothes - because you gotta know what the latest elf fashions are. They don't have People's Best Dressed edition there.

One thing that really gets me and I don't understand where it came from - what is the deal with the pregnant male elves? Is that in a book I did not read? It has been mentioned on this thread but can someone explain to me that?

Ok - the sex part. I am totally fine with smut and/or sex in the stories. It is in all of mine. But I do not get some things. Most of this has to do with SLASH which is not on this site but I still want to rant about it anyway for any one who reads stories on other sites. Here goes: Why is it that the elf always gets it? I mean poor Legolas has been abused by everyone in Middle Earth on one site I read. In fact I am surprised that Aragorn had time to become King because he was too busy with Legolas according to these stories. Is it because he has long hair and people think that is girly looking? An elf, who when Eomer threatened Gimli, said "You would die before your stroke fell." while being surrounded by a huge number of men with spears doesn't strike me as the type who is too weak or defenseless to prevent a sexual assault against himself. And Boromir and Pippin - what is up with that? Oh and they always have some kind of 'lube' with them. I bet they left their toothbrushes behind to pack the lube.

Orcs and Urek-Hai sexually assaulting someone. Is it just me or did it seem more like the orcs were into killing? I saw them stab and bite people but they were stabbing them with swords not 'their throbbing sword' and were not biting for sexual pleasure. They like to bite and eat 'man flesh' not rape them. Once again, I only saw the movies not read the books so maybe in the books they do that but I have a hard time believing that they did. And once again, nine times out of ten - Legolas is the one getting sexually assaulted by these villians. It is a good thing he is immortal. He needs time to have all of this sex with all of these various creatures!!!

Elf men are portrayed as weak in a lot of stories. That is one thing I have never done in my stories. Personally - if I go into battle - I want an elf beside me kicking some serious butt.

Incest - is that something that is okay in Middle Earth? Between Haldir, Rumil, and Orophin (I hope I remembered the names right) and Elrohir and Elladan incest in practically encouraged. Oh, and who can forget the threesomes/foursomes they have? Usually Legolas, Haldir, and brothers or Aragorn, Elladan, and Elrohir. First off - correct me if I am wrong, didn't Legolas just meet Haldir in Lothlorien during the Fellowship? He seemed to be having a lot of sex with him and his brothers prior to the Fellowship. I guess they were trying to play it cool so no one would know. Besides Legolas wouldn't want Aragorn to get jealous of his other lovers. (hehe)

OCs that have non-Middle Earth names. I go out to a website called Quenya Lapseparma that translates regular names into Elvish names to pick Elvish names for my stories. And if I need a non-elvish name I use another site that has Old English, Celtic, Old Norse, etc names and try to pick something that is less like modern day names.

I have written a lot of OCs that do in fact take part in events in the movies but I try to never interfer too much with the movie. They kind of weave in and out of the movie scenes and fill in empty spaces never pushing the original characters out of their original position in the movie. It irks me a little when the OC kills the Witch King or they rescue one of the warriors from the story. And of course, they are never scared to go into battle. The story I have written with a female OC going into battle was terrified even though she had skills. And despite the fact she did pretty well considering, she never did better than Gimli, Legolas, or Aragorn would have, and she ended up getting stabbed, thrown from her horse, beat, and strangled before it was over. She lived of course but she basically had to be rescued because while she started out well, she was getting her butt kicked all over the place before it was over. She was brave and skilled for a female character but not invincable or better than any of the main male characters. Like Eowyn, she was scared and she ended up hurt. I am not saying that women should be weak or anything but there is reason women do not fight often in Middle Earth - Orc blood doesn't come out of your dresses! And yes, in case you were wondering, when she does get blood on her dress, I describe the dress so you can get the total visual.

Since I am not perfect and in fact a serial offender, I guess I can let these things slide but I beg you please people - get off the elf every once in awhile. The poor guy needs a break.

[DarkElfChilde]

Mpregs... How the hell some people think that's possible are entirely...uh...-thinks of a nice word-...uhhhh...are entirely...stupid. That's the nicest word that I can come up with. I told someone that over at ff.net, and they yelled at me, saying that it's their story and they can do anything they want with it because it's fiction. My response to that is

I think that these people get F's in health class...I really do.

But in the end, I avoid those stories and slash stories, and stories where the elves are weaklings like the plague because yeah, the kids don't listen over at ff.net; they only yell and complain.


- DEC

[SpaceWeavil]

The name thing sometimes puts me off as well, depending on the story. Which is a shame, because I've seen stories that I might have enjoyed, if I hadn't been jarred everytime I got to the OC's name. Same with other elves or whatever. I'm a Tolkien languages geek, and so I can't help looking at how other people use elvish etc. (I know, that probably makes me very sad).

Personally I reckon I've finally got it sussed as to what sort of OC should have names in what language. I don't write Hobbit fics, as the fancy's never taken me (except once, and that story thankfully died with my old PC and shall never be seen again. It was on this archive for a day before my senses returned... ). I downloaded a load of elvish material that I used to teach myself, and recently got hold of a fairly decent English- Quenya wordlist from Ardalambion. I have to admit though, with my latest story being set in Numenor at the moment (revolving round the Witch King and eventually all 9 Ringwraiths, just to shove in a bit of shameless advertising) I am starting to go insane having to keep thinking up Quenya-based names.

As for the incest thing, I think someone mentioned that above. Needless to say it's not mentioned in any of the texts I've read. Can I just ask though, since we're talking about acceptibility - 1st cousins in Numenor - I take it I need to put a warning about incest on my story if two cousins are going to end up together for a while?

[BittenBuggy]

Er.... *snort*

Spacey, that is QUITE the avatar. Did little Arwen do daddy's hair?

[DarkElfChilde]

BB...I just notice this in your sig...

-"My ultimate fantasy is to entice a man to my bedroom, put a gun to his head and say, 'Make babies or die'."

[SpaceWeavil]

[Texasgirl]

[SpaceWeavil]

[Alassante]

[DarkElfChilde]

How about the LoTR characters end up there instead of Buffy and the gang ending up in ME?

[Alassante]

Hmmm....which LOTR characters were you thinking??? Could be interesting. I could see Gimli going up against a vamp. hehe

[DarkElfChilde]

Legolas, Gimli, and Aragorn?

[SpaceWeavil]

[Alassante]

I don't know DarkElfChilde. I think it might be amusing to see Buffy in Middle Earth with a bunch of Orcs and no mall or coffee shop.