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Thuriniel



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: OK - you told me I could ask questions..... Reply with quote

Alassante wrote:
And a non-clothes related question - if men have manhoods, do elves have elfhoods? Laughing Can you still call a male elf a man and a female elf a woman?

Sorry - but I had to ask!


I find the word "elfhood" incredibly funny and I cannot read a sex scene without laughing if the term "pops up" (the pun IS intended, Twisted Evil !)

If you want to impress us Sindarin geeks, use ellon for male elf, elleth for female elf, ellyn for plural (males), ellith for plural (females). You will put a smile on our face Very Happy .

And don't use she-elf ... apparently every one hates it. I used it in the first 2/3 of my fic and now I can just see myself going back and changing it. English is not my native language, so I had no clue it was such an undesirable term. At least that's my excuse Laughing !

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: OK - you told me I could ask questions..... Reply with quote

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If you want to impress us Sindarin geeks, use ellon for male elf, elleth for female elf, ellyn for plural (males), ellith for plural (females). You will put a smile on our face Very Happy .

And don't use she-elf ... apparently every one hates it. I used it in the first 2/3 of my fic and now I can just see myself going back and changing it. English is not my native language, so I had no clue it was such an undesirable term. At least that's my excuse Laughing !


yeah...(OFF-TOPIC WARNING) thuriniel, do you know where i can find a good sindarin dictionary?

and i agree-with the term she-elf, it seems to have the label derogatory towards ellith, but what about he-elf?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he elf sounds a lot like he man... Confused In a worse way...ewww.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering the fact that the only one I heard in the movie calling anyone a she-elf was one of the Nazgul (probably the Witch King) when he called Arwen one and told her to give up Frodo. Apparently she didn't like it either since she washed his a** and all of his buddies away!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: OK - you told me I could ask questions..... Reply with quote

Texasgirl wrote:
Thuriniel wrote:
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If you want to impress us Sindarin geeks, use ellon for male elf, elleth for female elf, ellyn for plural (males), ellith for plural (females). You will put a smile on our face Very Happy .

And don't use she-elf ... apparently every one hates it. I used it in the first 2/3 of my fic and now I can just see myself going back and changing it. English is not my native language, so I had no clue it was such an undesirable term. At least that's my excuse Laughing !


yeah...(OFF-TOPIC WARNING) thuriniel, do you know where i can find a good sindarin dictionary?

and i agree-with the term she-elf, it seems to have the label derogatory towards ellith, but what about he-elf?


I think this is the one I downloaded. It's in Adobe Acrobat format, which means it's easily searchable.

http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/sindar/downloads.html

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: OK - you told me I could ask questions..... Reply with quote

Texasgirl wrote:
and i agree-with the term she-elf, it seems to have the label derogatory towards ellith, but what about he-elf?


Only if you can sincerely use the term "he-man" to describe Boromir. Without giggling. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: OK - you told me I could ask questions..... Reply with quote

Viv wrote:
Texasgirl wrote:
and i agree-with the term she-elf, it seems to have the label derogatory towards ellith, but what about he-elf?


Only if you can sincerely use the term "he-man" to describe Boromir. Without giggling. Wink


Even worse, try looking at Pippin and saying He-Hobbit Cool (You'll make yourself sound like a donkey, probably Laughing )

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragon Flame is my favorite one. Downloadable, pretty accurate and super easy to use.

... and the same one SpaceWeavil pointed out Laughing !

One last thing to say about she-elf ... being a Spanish speaker and considering how we "genderize" everything from things to people ... can you blame me for wanting to distinguish between male and female elves?

Sometimes I don't know how you English speakers communicate Wink !

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sometimes I don't know how you English speakers communicate Wink !


No kidding! How can we use a language without a second person plural?! ... Unless, of course, all ya'll count Texan as real English.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Viv wrote:
Thuriniel wrote:
Sometimes I don't know how you English speakers communicate Wink !


No kidding! How can we use a language without a second person plural?! ... Unless, of course, all ya'll count Texan as real English.


Or Glaswegian 'yous lot'

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in North Carolina - Ya'll is taught at birth!!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or git er done.

gitter...git...er...something...

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to Viv, I now know how to post a picture. Here is the picture of my tattoo. It isn't a great picture - my skin looks kinda funny bu you can see the Elvish at least. I am wondering if any of you know what it says....hmm??




I will give you a hint:

Guren guin Aear.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meow mix meow mix please deliver?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-snickers- Sorry...I couldn't resist. But..


My heart of sea?

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