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miriel361



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't Viv have a natural born ability to pull worms out of the woodwork? It's always bad to ignore woodworms because they tend to spread and before you know it, the chair collapses under you.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Viv wrote:
On averages, if several folks have already left higher ratings, and when one more vote is added the star count goes down, that last voter must have rated the story at least two stars below the original rating, right?


Oh, okay. I see what you mean. I never paid much attention to the ratings of my stories - or at least their fluctuations - to notice this. Don't get me wrong, I do go and check every once in a while to see if there are new reviews and the overall rating, but not often enough to notice one low vote.

Maybe I don't deserve feedback. (Did you know that despite all the hits for Laundry Day, not a soul ever left a review?)

do.

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NancyBrooke
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This all brings up the relationship between ratings and reviews, posting and feedback, and the fact that there really isn't one. Writers post; readers read and don't have to provide any feedback at all (as much as I wish they would).

I try to leave both a rating and a review, and try to be both candid and positive (Viv, I think you are particularly good at this). But obviously, not everyone does and many more neither rate nor review.

It's frustrating, but I think we (well, you know, Robbie) could change the system and have it force the reader to do both if any, but that would probably lead to even fewer readers reviewing/rating. The other, somewhat sadder, option is that we writers could lower our expectations of receiving unsolicited feedback when we post. Perhaps Scribe could add something to the Introduction encouraging readers to review, but they cannot be compelled.

There just doesn't seem anyway around it - unless you directly ask for an opinion on a story, we have to be content with what we get, which is sometimes nothing.

But I, too, am smarting that my last posted story has received neither rating nor review, although it's been hit on 60 some times.

I know this is not a satisfying answer; sorry.

And - btw - above I typed the R-name and the system automatically substituted "He who thinks Boromir has a Big Nose"! What kind of a wonk programs that! Laughing
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miriel361



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do wrote
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Maybe I don't deserve feedback. (Did you know that despite all the hits for Laundry Day, not a soul ever left a review?)
do.


I can't seem to figure out this 'quote' system. The reason why you didn't get any reviews Do, was that by the time we'd finished reading 'Laundry Day', we only had one thing on our mind and that wasn't writing a review. ... :wink

Edit: quoting fixed. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

miriel361 wrote:
The reason why you didn't get any reviews Do, was that by the time we'd finished reading 'Laundry Day', we only had one thing on our mind and that wasn't writing a review. ... :wink



I agree wholeheartedly on this .... still waiting for the next installment of Gratitude, Miss Do. And if i would have reviewed Laundry Day it would most likely have been ... sigh, pant ... run for the shower Wink (which cant be counted as intelligent constructive feedback, right?)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would prefer reviews to ratings, so at least I can see who is reading. I would think that if somebody likes a story well enough to give it four or five stars, they might say something about it, too.

I just like reading reviews, that's all. Terrible at giving them (don't really have time to read much anyway), but I like getting them.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for the record, Viv has posted over 105 reviews. I guess she is just asking for the same courtesy back.

Next best is 50, 43, 30 then 7 users in the 20s, 14 in the tens, yet 180 people have posted a review!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"He who thinks Boromir has a Big Nose" wrote:
Just for the record, Viv has posted over 105 reviews. I guess she is just asking for the same courtesy back.

Next best is 50, 43, 30 then 7 users in the 20s, 14 in the tens, yet 180 people have posted a review!


WOW ... *hides in shame * ... I promise I'll try to read and review my share as well ... Embarassed

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"He who thinks Boromir has a Big Nose" wrote:
Just for the record, Viv has posted over 105 reviews. I guess she is just asking for the same courtesy back.


Nah. I just like to read. Not everybody has the time to read that much.

But if folks do want to review or send a note regarding something I've written, they should feel free to be critical. That's the point I've tried to make (and may have done a lousy job of it... lol).
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote=""He who thinks Boromir has a Big Nose""]Just for the record, Viv has posted over 105 reviews. I guess she is just asking for the same courtesy back.[quote]

Makes me regret never even considering reviewing. Embarassed Going to try to take the time sometime soon to write some for the stories on this site that I've read and liked.

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